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Wednesday, January 27, 2010

"That We Might Live" Talk of the 1st Quarter of the Year 2010 - The Atonement of Jesus Christ (and what it means for each of us)


"That We Might Live" Talk of the 1st Quarter of the Year 2010 - The Atonement of Jesus Christ (and what it means for each of us)

Doing something different – The Atonement of Jesus Christ is the single most important Sacred events for us to understand fully – completely – comprehensively and correctly! Without the Atonement of our Lord and Savior – the Holy One of Israel – and the Son of Our Heavenly Father is/was the sole purpose of this Earth to allow us to return unto the Father and the Son. Therefore below are multiple articles and lessons on the Atonement of Jesus Christ. If one over the next three months would take the time to read and study these articles/talks/lessons it will uplift and edify each of us about why we’re here – where we came from and where we might be going if our parachutes don’t open. c/ork

"The Atonement and the Value of One Soul"
M. Russell Ballard, Ensign, May 2004, 84–87If we could truly understand the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ, we would realize how precious is one son or daughter of God.
"Atonement, Agency, Accountability"
Boyd K. Packer, Ensign, May 1988, 69–72 Ever and always [the Atonement] offers amnesty from transgression and from death if we will but repent. . . . Repentance is the key with which we can unlock the prison from inside . . . , and agency is ours to use it.
The Lord had come from Gethsemane; before Him was His crucifixion. At the moment of betrayal, Peter drew his sword against Malchus, a servant of the high priest. Jesus said:
“Put up again thy sword into his place. …
“Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” (Matt. 26:52–53).
During all of the taunting, the abuse, the scourging, and the final torture of crucifixion, the Lord remained silent and submissive. Except, that is, for one moment of intense drama which reveals the very essence of Christian doctrine.
That moment came during the trial. Pilate, now afraid, said to Jesus: “Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?” (John 19:10).
One can only imagine the quiet majesty when the Lord spoke. “Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above” (John 19:11).
What happened thereafter did not come because Pilate had power to impose it, but because the Lord had the will to accept it.
“I lay down my life,” the Lord said, “that I might take it again.
“No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again” (John 10:17–18).
Before the Crucifixion and afterward, many men have willingly given their lives in selfless acts of heroism. But none faced what the Christ endured. Upon Him was the burden of all human transgression, all human guilt.
And hanging in the balance was the Atonement. Through His willing act, mercy and justice could be reconciled, eternal law sustained, and that mediation achieved without which mortal man could not be redeemed.
He, by choice, accepted the penalty for all mankind for the sum total of all wickedness and depravity; for brutality, immorality, perversion, and corruption; for addiction; for the killings and torture and terror—for all of it that ever had been or all that ever would be enacted upon this earth.
In choosing, He faced the awesome power of the evil one who was not confined to flesh nor subject to mortal pain. That was Gethsemane!
How the Atonement was wrought, we do not know. No mortal watched as evil turned away and hid in shame before the light of that pure being.
All wickedness could not quench that light. When what was done was done, the ransom had been paid. Both death and hell forsook their claim on all who would repent. Men at last were free. Then every soul who ever lived could choose to touch that light and be redeemed.
By this infinite sacrifice, through this atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel.
Atonement is really three words: At-one-ment, meaning to set at one, one with God; to reconcile, to conciliate, to expiate.
But did you know that the word atonement appears only once in the English New Testament? Only once! I quote from Paul’s letter to the Romans:
“Christ died for us. …
“We were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
“And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement” (Rom. 5:8, 10–11; italics added).
Only that once does the word atonement appear in the English New Testament. Atonement, of all words! It was not an unknown word, for it had been used much in the Old Testament in connection with the law of Moses, once only in the New Testament. I find that to be remarkable.
I know of only one explanation. For that we turn to the Book of Mormon.
Nephi testified that the Bible once “contained the fulness of the gospel of the Lord, of whom the twelve apostles bear record” (1 Ne. 13:24) and that “After [the words] go forth by the hand of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, from the Jews unto the Gentiles, thou seest the formation of that great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away” (1 Ne. 13:26).
Jacob defined the great and abominable church in these words:
“Wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion, both Jew and Gentile, both bond and free, both male and female, shall perish; for they are they who are the whore of all the earth; for they who are not for me are against me, saith our God” (2 Ne. 10:16).
Nephi said, “Because of the many plain and precious things which have been taken out of the book, … an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them” (1 Ne. 13:29).
He then prophesied that the precious things would be restored (see 1 Ne. 13:34–35).
And they were restored. In the Book of Mormon the word atone in form and tense appears fifty-five times. I quote but one verse from Alma: “And now, the plan of mercy could not be brought about except an atonement should be made; therefore God himself atoneth for the sins of the world, to bring about the plan of mercy, to appease the demands of justice, that God might be a perfect, just God, and a merciful God also” (Alma 42:15; italics added).
Only once in the New Testament—fifty-five times in the Book of Mormon. What better witness that the Book of Mormon is indeed another testament of Jesus Christ?
And that is not all. The words atone, atonement, atoneth, appear in the Doctrine and Covenants eleven times and in the Pearl of Great Price three. Sixty-nine references of transcendent importance. And that is not all! Hundreds of other verses help to explain it.
The cost of the Atonement was borne by the Lord without compulsion, for agency is a sovereign principle. According to the plan, agency must be honored. It was so from the beginning, from Eden.
“The Lord said unto Enoch: Behold these thy brethren; they are the workmanship of mine own hands, and I gave unto them their knowledge, in the day I created them; and in the Garden of Eden, gave I unto man his agency” (Moses 7:32).
Whatever else happened in Eden, in his supreme moment of testing, Adam made a choice.
After the Lord commanded Adam and Eve to multiply and replenish the earth and commanded them not to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, He said: “Nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself, for it is given unto thee; but, remember that I forbid it, for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” (Moses 3:17).
There was too much at issue to introduce man into mortality by force. That would contravene the very law essential to the plan. The plan provided that each spirit child of God would receive a mortal body and each would be tested. Adam saw that it must be so and made his choice. “Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy” (2 Ne. 2:25).
Adam and Eve ventured forth to multiply and replenish the earth as they had been commanded to do. The creation of their bodies in the image of God, as a separate creation, was crucial to the plan. Their subsequent fall was essential if the condition of mortality was to exist and the plan proceed.
Jacob described what would happen to our bodies and our spirits except an atonement, an infinite atonement, were made. We should, he said, have become “like unto [the devil]” (see 2 Ne. 9:7–9).
I seldom use the word absolute. It seldom fits. I use it now—twice. Because of the Fall, the Atonement was absolutely essential for resurrection to proceed and overcome mortal death.
The Atonement was absolutely essential for men to cleanse themselves from sin and overcome the second death, which is the spiritual death, which is separation from our Father in Heaven. For the scriptures tell us, seven times they tell us, that no unclean thing may enter the presence of God.
Those scriptural words, “Thou mayest choose for thyself, for it is given unto thee” (Moses 3:17), introduced Adam and Eve and their posterity to all the risks of mortality. In mortality men are free to choose, and each choice begets a consequence. The choice Adam made energized the law of justice, which required that the penalty for disobedience would be death.
But those words spoken at the trial, “Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above” (John 19:11), proved mercy was of equal rank. A redeemer was sent to pay the debt and set men free. That was the plan.
Alma’s son Corianton thought it unfair that penalties must follow sin, that there need be punishment. In a profound lesson Alma taught the plan of redemption to his son, and so to us.
Alma spoke of the Atonement and said, “Now, repentance could not come unto men except there were a punishment” (Alma 42:16).
If punishment is the price repentance asks, it comes at bargain price. Consequences, even painful ones, protect us. So simple a thing as a child’s cry of pain when his finger touches fire can teach us that. Except for the pain, the child might be consumed.
I readily confess that I would find no peace, neither happiness nor safety, in a world without repentance. I do not know what I should do if there were no way for me to erase my mistakes. The agony would be more than I could bear. It may be otherwise with you, but not with me.
An atonement was made. Ever and always it offers amnesty from transgression and from death if we will but repent. Repentance is the escape clause in it all. Repentance is the key with which we can unlock the prison from inside. We hold that key within our hands, and agency is ours to use it.
How supernally precious freedom is; how consummately valuable is the agency of man.
Lucifer in clever ways manipulates our choices, deceiving us about sin and consequences. He, and his angels with him, tempt us to be unworthy, even wicked. But he cannot, in all eternity he cannot, with all his power he cannot completely destroy us; not without our own consent. Had agency come to man without the Atonement, it would have been a fatal gift.
We are taught in Genesis, in Moses, in Abraham, in the Book of Mormon, and in the endowment that man’s mortal body was made in the image of God in a separate creation. Had the Creation come in a different way, there could have been no Fall.
If men were merely animals, then logic favors freedom without accountability.
How well I know that among learned men are those who look down at animals and stones to find the origin of man. They do not look inside themselves to find the spirit there. They train themselves to measure things by time, by thousands and by millions, and say these animals called men all came by chance. And this they are free to do, for agency is theirs.
But agency is ours as well. We look up, and in the universe we see the handiwork of God and measure things by epochs, by eons, by dispensations, by eternities. The many things we do not know we take on faith.
But this we know! It was all planned before the world was. Events from the Creation to the final, winding-up scene are not based on chance; they are based on choice! It was planned that way.
This we know! This simple truth! Had there been no Creation, no Fall, there should have been no need for any Atonement, neither a Redeemer to mediate for us. Then Christ need not have been.
At Gethsemane and Golgotha the Savior’s blood was shed. Centuries earlier the Passover had been introduced as a symbol and a type of things to come. It was an ordinance to be kept forever (see Ex. 12).
When the plague of death was decreed upon Egypt, each Israelite family was commanded to take a lamb, firstborn, male, without blemish. This paschal lamb was slain without breaking any bones, its blood to mark the doorway of the home. The Lord promised that the angel of death would pass over the homes so marked and not slay those inside. They were saved by the blood of the lamb.
After the crucifixion of the Lord, the law of sacrifice required no more shedding of blood. For that was done, as Paul taught the Hebrews, “once for all, … one sacrifice for sins for ever” (Heb. 10:10, 12). The sacrifice thenceforth was to be a broken heart and a contrite spirit—repentance.
And the Passover would be commemorated forever as the sacrament, in which we renew our covenant of baptism and partake in remembrance of the body of the Lamb of God and of His blood, which was shed for us.
It is no small thing that this symbol reappears in the Word of Wisdom. Beyond the promise that Saints in this generation, who obey, will receive health and great treasures of knowledge is this: “I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the destroying angel shall pass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them” (D&C 89:21).
I cannot with composure tell you how I feel about the Atonement. It touches the deepest emotion of gratitude and obligation. My soul reaches after Him who wrought it, this Christ, our Savior of whom I am a witness. I testify of Him. He is our Lord, our Redeemer, our advocate with the Father. He ransomed us with His blood.
Humbly I lay claim upon the atonement of Christ. I find no shame in kneeling down in worship of our Father and His son. For agency is mine, and this I choose to do!
In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

"The Purifying Power of Gethsemane"
Bruce R. McConkie, Ensign, May 1985, 9–11 The Lord's Atonement is the most transcendent event that ever has or ever will occur, from Creation's dawn through all the ages of a never-ending eternity.
I feel, and the Spirit seems to accord, that the most important doctrine I can declare, and the most powerful testimony I can bear, is of the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ.
His atonement is the most transcendent event that ever has or ever will occur from Creation’s dawn through all the ages of a never-ending eternity.
It is the supreme act of goodness and grace that only a god could perform. Through it, all of the terms and conditions of the Father’s eternal plan of salvation became operative.
Through it are brought to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. Through it, all men are saved from death, hell, the devil, and endless torment.
And through it, all who believe and obey the glorious gospel of God, all who are true and faithful and overcome the world, all who suffer for Christ and his word, all who are chastened and scourged in the Cause of him whose we are—all shall become as their Maker and sit with him on his throne and reign with him forever in everlasting glory.
In speaking of these wondrous things I shall use my own words, though you may think they are the words of scripture, words spoken by other Apostles and prophets.
True it is they were first proclaimed by others, but they are now mine, for the Holy Spirit of God has borne witness to me that they are true, and it is now as though the Lord had revealed them to me in the first instance. I have thereby heard his voice and know his word.
Two thousand years ago, outside Jerusalem’s walls, there was a pleasant garden spot, Gethsemane by name, where Jesus and his intimate friends were wont to retire for pondering and prayer.
There Jesus taught his disciples the doctrines of the kingdom, and all of them communed with Him who is the Father of us all, in whose ministry they were engaged, and on whose errand they served.
This sacred spot, like Eden where Adam dwelt, like Sinai from whence Jehovah gave his laws, like Calvary where the Son of God gave his life a ransom for many, this holy ground is where the Sinless Son of the Everlasting Father took upon himself the sins of all men on condition of repentance.
We do not know, we cannot tell, no mortal mind can conceive the full import of what Christ did in Gethsemane.
We know he sweat great gouts of blood from every pore as he drained the dregs of that bitter cup his Father had given him.
We know he suffered, both body and spirit, more than it is possible for man to suffer, except it be unto death.
We know that in some way, incomprehensible to us, his suffering satisfied the demands of justice, ransomed penitent souls from the pains and penalties of sin, and made mercy available to those who believe in his holy name.
We know that he lay prostrate upon the ground as the pains and agonies of an infinite burden caused him to tremble and would that he might not drink the bitter cup.
We know that an angel came from the courts of glory to strengthen him in his ordeal, and we suppose it was mighty Michael, who foremost fell that mortal man might be.
As near as we can judge, these infinite agonies—this suffering beyond compare—continued for some three or four hours.
After this—his body then wrenched and drained of strength—he confronted Judas and the other incarnate devils, some from the very Sanhedrin itself; and he was led away with a rope around his neck, as a common criminal, to be judged by the arch-criminals who as Jews sat in Aaron’s seat and who as Romans wielded Caesar’s power.
They took him to Annas, to Caiaphas, to Pilate, to Herod, and back to Pilate. He was accused, cursed, and smitten. Their foul saliva ran down his face as vicious blows further weakened his pain-engulfed body.
With reeds of wrath they rained blows upon his back. Blood ran down his face as a crown of thorns pierced his trembling brow.
But above it all he was scourged, scourged with forty stripes save one, scourged with a multithonged whip into whose leather strands sharp bones and cutting metals were woven.
Many died from scourging alone, but he rose from the sufferings of the scourge that he might die an ignominious death upon the cruel cross of Calvary.
Then he carried his own cross until he collapsed from the weight and pain and mounting agony of it all.
Finally, on a hill called Calvary—again, it was outside Jerusalem’s walls—while helpless disciples looked on and felt the agonies of near death in their own bodies, the Roman soldiers laid him upon the cross.
With great mallets they drove spikes of iron through his feet and hands and wrists. Truly he was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities.
Then the cross was raised that all might see and gape and curse and deride. This they did, with evil venom, for three hours from 9:00 a.m. to noon.
Then the heavens grew black. Darkness covered the land for the space of three hours, as it did among the Nephites. There was a mighty storm, as though the very God of Nature was in agony.
And truly he was, for while he was hanging on the cross for another three hours, from noon to 3:00 p.m., all the infinite agonies and merciless pains of Gethsemane recurred.
And, finally, when the atoning agonies had taken their toll—when the victory had been won, when the Son of God had fulfilled the will of his Father in all things—then he said, “It is finished” (John 19:30), and he voluntarily gave up the ghost.
As the peace and comfort of a merciful death freed him from the pains and sorrows of mortality, he entered the paradise of God.
When he had made his soul an offering for sin, he was prepared to see his seed, according to the messianic word.
These, consisting of all the holy prophets and faithful Saints from ages past; these, comprising all who had taken upon them his name, and who, being spiritually begotten by him, had become his sons and his daughters, even as it is with us; all these were assembled in the spirit world, there to see his face and hear his voice.
After some thirty-eight or forty hours—three days as the Jews measured time—our Blessed Lord came to the Arimathaean’s tomb, where his partially embalmed body had been placed by Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathaea.
Then, in a way incomprehensible to us, he took up that body which had not yet seen corruption and arose in that glorious immortality which made him like his resurrected Father.
He then received all power in heaven and on earth, obtained eternal exaltation, appeared unto Mary Magdalene and many others, and ascended into heaven, there to sit down on the right hand of God the Father Almighty and to reign forever in eternal glory.
His rising from death on the third day crowned the Atonement. Again, in some way incomprehensible to us, the effects of his resurrection pass upon all men so that all shall rise from the grave.
As Adam brought death, so Christ brought life; as Adam is the father of mortality, so Christ is the father of immortality.
And without both, mortality and immortality, man cannot work out his salvation and ascend to those heights beyond the skies where gods and angels dwell forever in eternal glory.
Now, the atonement of Christ is the most basic and fundamental doctrine of the gospel, and it is the least understood of all our revealed truths.
Many of us have a superficial knowledge and rely upon the Lord and his goodness to see us through the trials and perils of life.
But if we are to have faith like Enoch and Elijah we must believe what they believed, know what they knew, and live as they lived.
May I invite you to join with me in gaining a sound and sure knowledge of the Atonement.
We must cast aside the philosophies of men and the wisdom of the wise and hearken to that Spirit which is given to us to guide us into all truth.
We must search the scriptures, accepting them as the mind and will and voice of the Lord and the very power of God unto salvation.
As we read, ponder, and pray, there will come into our minds a view of the three gardens of God—the Garden of Eden, the Garden of Gethsemane, and the Garden of the Empty Tomb where Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene.
In Eden we will see all things created in a paradisiacal state—without death, without procreation, without probationary experiences.
We will come to know that such a creation, now unknown to man, was the only way to provide for the Fall.
We will then see Adam and Eve, the first man and the first woman, step down from their state of immortal and paradisiacal glory to become the first mortal flesh on earth.
Mortality, including as it does procreation and death, will enter the world. And because of transgression a probationary estate of trial and testing will begin.
Then in Gethsemane we will see the Son of God ransom man from the temporal and spiritual death that came to us because of the Fall.
And finally, before an empty tomb, we will come to know that Christ our Lord has burst the bands of death and stands forever triumphant over the grave.
Thus, Creation is father to the Fall; and by the Fall came mortality and death; and by Christ came immortality and eternal life.
If there had been no fall of Adam, by which cometh death, there could have been no atonement of Christ, by which cometh life.
And now, as pertaining to this perfect atonement, wrought by the shedding of the blood of God—I testify that it took place in Gethsemane and at Golgotha, and as pertaining to Jesus Christ, I testify that he is the Son of the Living God and was crucified for the sins of the world. He is our Lord, our God, and our King. This I know of myself independent of any other person.
I am one of his witnesses, and in a coming day I shall feel the nail marks in his hands and in his feet and shall wet his feet with my tears.
But I shall not know any better then than I know now that he is God’s Almighty Son, that he is our Savior and Redeemer, and that salvation comes in and through his atoning blood and in no other way.
God grant that all of us may walk in the light as God our Father is in the light so that, according to the promises, the blood of Jesus Christ his Son will cleanse us from all sin.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

"The Atonement: Our Greatest Hope"
James E. Faust, Liahona, Jan. 2002, 19–22; or Ensign, Nov. 2001, 18–20Our salvation depends on believing in and accepting the Atonement. Such acceptance requires a continual effort to understand it more fully.
"Testifying of the Great and Glorious Atonement"
Neal A. Maxwell, Liahona, Apr. 2002, 6–13; or Ensign, Oct. 2001, 10–15By personally understanding and believing in the Atonement, you and I can teach and testify of it with greater gratitude, greater love, and greater power.
"The Atonement"
Russell M. Nelson, Ensign, Nov. 1996, 33–36The purposes of the Creation, the Fall, and the Atonement all converge on the sacred work done in temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
"The Fall and Infinite Atonement
Spencer J. Condie, Ensign, Jan. 1996, 22–27Without the knowledge restored through the Book of Mormon, we might never fully understand the Fall and the Atonement.
"The Supernal Gift of the Atonement"
James E. Faust, Ensign, Nov. 1988, 12–14 Faith in the Savior's resurrection "should help us carry all burdens, bear any sorrows, and also fully savor all joys and happiness that can be found in this life."
"Accepting the Atonement of Jesus Christ"
Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, Chapter 5
"The Infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ"
Teachings of Presidents of the Church: John Taylor, Chapter 5
"The Power of the Atonement for Us Personally"
Teachings of Presidents of the Church: John Taylor, Chapter 6
"Atone, Atonement"
Guide to the Scriptures
"Atonement of Jesus Christ"
Encyclopedia of Mormonism (Please note that the contents of the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, a joint product of Brigham Young University and Macmillan Publishing Company, do not necessarily represent the official position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.)
Jesus Christ “came into the world … to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness; that through him all might be saved” (D&C 76:41–42). The great sacrifice he made to pay for our sins and overcome death is called the Atonement. It is the most important event that has ever occurred in the history of mankind: “For it is expedient that an atonement should be made; for according to the great plan of the Eternal God there must be an atonement made, or else all mankind must unavoidably perish; … yea, all are fallen and are lost, and must perish except it be through the atonement” (Alma 34:9).
Discussion
· • Why did Jesus come to the earth?
The Atonement Was Necessary for Our Salvation
The fall of Adam brought two kinds of death into the world: physical death and spiritual death. Physical death is separation of the body and spirit. Spiritual death is separation from God. If these two kinds of death had not been overcome by Jesus’ atonement, two consequences would have resulted: our bodies and our spirits would have been separated forever, and we could not have lived again with our Heavenly Father.
But our wise Heavenly Father prepared a wonderful, merciful plan to save us from physical and spiritual death. He planned for a Savior to come to earth to ransom (redeem) us from our sins and from death. Because of our sins and the weakness of our mortal bodies, we could not ransom ourselves (see Alma 34:10–12). The one who would be our Savior would need to be sinless and to have power over death.
Discussion
· • Compare our earthly bodies to a hand with a glove on it. Take off the glove. Explain that this is like physical death—the spirit (the hand) and the body (the glove) are separated.
Christ Was the Only One Who Could Atone for Our Sins
There are several reasons why Jesus Christ was the only person who could be our Savior. One reason is that Heavenly Father chose him to be the Savior. He was the Only Begotten Son of God and thus had power over death. Jesus explained: “I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again” (John 10:17–18).
Jesus also qualified to be our Savior because he is the only person who has ever lived on the earth who did not sin. This made him a worthy sacrifice to pay for the sins of others.
Discussion
· • Have class members discuss the reasons why Jesus was the only one who could atone for our sins.
Christ Suffered and Died to Atone for Our Sins
The Savior atoned for our sins by suffering in Gethsemane and by giving his life on the cross. It is impossible for us to fully understand how he suffered for all of our sins. In the Garden of Gethsemane, the weight of our sins caused him to feel such agony and heartbreak that he bled from every pore (see D&C 19:18–19). Later, as he hung upon the cross, Jesus suffered painful death by one of the most cruel methods known to man.
How Jesus loves us, to suffer such spiritual and physical agony for our sake! How great the love of Heavenly Father that he would send his Only Begotten Son to suffer and die for the rest of his children. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).
Discussion
· • Ask class members to imagine themselves in the Garden of Gethsemane as witnesses of the suffering of Jesus Christ. Have someone read the account in Luke 22:39–44.
The Atonement and Resurrection Bring Resurrection to All
On the third day after his crucifixion, Christ took up his body again and became the first person to be resurrected. When his friends went to seek him, the angels who guarded his tomb told them, “He is not here: for he is risen, as he said” (Matthew 28:6). His spirit had reentered his body, never to be separated again.
Christ thus overcame physical death. Because of his atonement, everyone born on this earth will be resurrected (see 1 Corinthians 15:21–22). Just as Jesus was resurrected, our spirits will be reunited with our bodies, “that they can die no more … , never to be divided” (Alma 11:45). This condition is called immortality. All people who have ever lived will be resurrected, “both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous” (Alma 11:44).
Discussion
· • Refer again to the hand and glove. Explain that because Jesus Christ atoned for our sins, all people will someday be resurrected. (Put the glove on your hand.) Our bodies and our spirits will reunite.
The Atonement Makes It Possible for Those Who Have Faith in Christ to Be Saved from Their Sins
The Savior’s atonement makes it possible for us to overcome spiritual death. Although all people will be resurrected with a body of flesh and bone, only those who accept the Atonement will be saved from spiritual death.
We accept Christ’s atonement by placing our faith in him. Through this faith, we repent of our sins, are baptized, receive the Holy Ghost, and obey his commandments. We become faithful disciples of Jesus Christ. We are forgiven and cleansed from sin and prepared to return and live forever with our Heavenly Father.
The Savior tells us, “For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer … even as I” (D&C 19:16–17). Christ did his part to atone for our sins. To make his atonement fully effective in our lives, we must strive to obey him and repent of our sins.
Elder Boyd K. Packer of the Council of the Twelve gave the following illustration to show how Christ’s atonement makes it possible to be saved from sin if we do our part.
“Let me tell you a story—a parable.
“There once was a man who wanted something very much. It seemed more important than anything else in his life. In order for him to have his desire, he incurred a great debt.
“He had been warned about going into that much debt, and particularly about his creditor. But it seemed so important for him to do what he wanted to and to have what he wanted right now. He was sure he could pay for it later.
“So he signed a contract. He would pay it off some time along the way. He didn’t worry too much about it, for the due date seemed such a long time away. He had what he wanted now, and that was what seemed important.
“The creditor was always somewhere in the back of his mind, and he made token payments now and again, thinking somehow that the day of reckoning really would never come.
“But as it always does, the day came, and the contract fell due. The debt had not been fully paid. His creditor appeared and demanded payment in full.
“Only then did he realize that his creditor not only had the power to repossess all that he owned, but the power to cast him into prison as well.
“ ‘I cannot pay you, for I have not the power to do so,’ he confessed.
“ ‘Then,’ said the creditor, ‘we will exercise the contract, take your possessions and you shall go to prison. You agreed to that. It was your choice. You signed the contract, and now it must be enforced.’
“ ‘Can you not extend the time or forgive the debt?’ the debtor begged. ‘Arrange some way for me to keep what I have and not go to prison. Surely you believe in mercy? Will you not show mercy?’
“The creditor replied, ‘Mercy is always so one-sided. It would serve only you. If I show mercy to you, it will leave me unpaid. It is justice I demand. Do you believe in justice?’
“ ‘I believed in justice when I signed the contract,’ the debtor said. ‘It was on my side then, for I thought it would protect me. I did not need mercy then, nor think I should need it ever. Justice, I thought, would serve both of us equally as well.’
“ ‘It is justice that demands that you pay the contract or suffer the penalty,’ the creditor replied. ‘That is the law. You have agreed to it and that is the way it must be. Mercy cannot rob justice.’
“There they were: One meting out justice, the other pleading for mercy. Neither could prevail except at the expense of the other.
“ ‘If you do not forgive the debt there will be no mercy,’ the debtor pleaded.
“ ‘If I do, there will be no justice,’ was the reply.
“Both laws, it seemed, could not be served. They are two eternal ideals that appear to contradict one another. Is there no way for justice to be fully served, and mercy also?
“There is a way! The law of justice can be fully satisfied and mercy can be fully extended—but it takes someone else. And so it happened this time.
“The debtor had a friend. He came to help. He knew the debtor well. He knew him to be shortsighted. He thought him foolish to have gotten himself into such a predicament. Nevertheless, he wanted to help because he loved him. He stepped between them, faced the creditor, and made this offer.
“ ‘I will pay the debt if you will free the debtor from his contract so that he may keep his possessions and not go to prison.’
“As the creditor was pondering the offer, the mediator added, ‘You demanded justice. Though he cannot pay you, I will do so. You will have been justly dealt with and can ask no more. It would not be just.’
“And so the creditor agreed.
“The mediator turned then to the debtor. ‘If I pay your debt, will you accept me as your creditor?’
“ ‘Oh yes, yes,’ cried the debtor. ‘You saved me from prison and show mercy to me.’
“ ‘Then,’ said the benefactor, ‘you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible. I will provide a way. You need not go to prison.’
“And so it was that the creditor was paid in full. He had been justly dealt with. No contract had been broken.
“The debtor, in turn, had been extended mercy. Both laws stood fulfilled. Because there was a mediator, justice had claimed its full share, and mercy was satisfied” (in Conference Report, Apr. 1977, pp. 79–80; or Ensign, May 1977, pp. 54–55).
Our sins are our spiritual debts. Without Jesus Christ, who is our Savior and Mediator, we would all pay for our sins by suffering spiritual death. But because of him, if we will keep his terms, which are to repent and keep his commandments, we may return to live with our Heavenly Father.
It is wonderful that Christ has provided us a way to be healed from our sins. He said:
“Behold, I have come unto the world … to save the world from sin.
“Therefore, whoso repenteth and cometh unto me as a little child, him will I receive, for of such is the kingdom of God. Behold, for such I have laid down my life, and have taken it up again; therefore repent, and come unto me ye ends of the earth, and be saved” (3 Nephi 9:21–22).
Discussion
· • Read Acts 2:38. What must we do to show that we accept the Atonement?
· • Read Doctrine and Covenants 19:16–17. What is the penalty for those who do not accept the atonement of the Savior?
Additional Scriptures
· • Alma 34:9–16 (Atonement necessary; sacrifice of God)
· • Romans 5:12–17 (by one came death, by one came life)
· • Helaman 14:15–18 (purpose of Jesus’ death)
· • Articles of Faith 1:3 (all may be saved)
· • 1 Peter 1:18–20 (Jesus was foreordained)
· • Matthew 16:21 (Jesus’ sacrifice was necessary)
· • Luke 22:39–46 (Jesus’ suffering in the Garden)
· • 1 John 1:7 (Jesus cleanses from sin)
· • 2 Nephi 9:21–22 (the Savior suffered for all people)
· • Mosiah 16:6–8 (resurrection possible only through Jesus)
· • Alma 11:40–45; Mormon 9:12–14 (all to be resurrected)
· • Isaiah 1:18 (sins shall be made white)
· • 1 Corinthians 15:40–44 (description of the Resurrection)

"The Atonement"
Gospel Principles, Chapter 12
Jesus Christ “came into the world … to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness; that through him all might be saved” (D&C 76:41–42). The great sacrifice he made to pay for our sins and overcome death is called the Atonement. It is the most important event that has ever occurred in the history of mankind: “For it is expedient that an atonement should be made; for according to the great plan of the Eternal God there must be an atonement made, or else all mankind must unavoidably perish; … yea, all are fallen and are lost, and must perish except it be through the atonement” (Alma 34:9).
Discussion
· • Why did Jesus come to the earth?
The Atonement Was Necessary for Our Salvation
The fall of Adam brought two kinds of death into the world: physical death and spiritual death. Physical death is separation of the body and spirit. Spiritual death is separation from God. If these two kinds of death had not been overcome by Jesus’ atonement, two consequences would have resulted: our bodies and our spirits would have been separated forever, and we could not have lived again with our Heavenly Father.
But our wise Heavenly Father prepared a wonderful, merciful plan to save us from physical and spiritual death. He planned for a Savior to come to earth to ransom (redeem) us from our sins and from death. Because of our sins and the weakness of our mortal bodies, we could not ransom ourselves (see Alma 34:10–12). The one who would be our Savior would need to be sinless and to have power over death.
Discussion
· • Compare our earthly bodies to a hand with a glove on it. Take off the glove. Explain that this is like physical death—the spirit (the hand) and the body (the glove) are separated.
Christ Was the Only One Who Could Atone for Our Sins
There are several reasons why Jesus Christ was the only person who could be our Savior. One reason is that Heavenly Father chose him to be the Savior. He was the Only Begotten Son of God and thus had power over death. Jesus explained: “I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again” (John 10:17–18).
Jesus also qualified to be our Savior because he is the only person who has ever lived on the earth who did not sin. This made him a worthy sacrifice to pay for the sins of others.
Discussion
· • Have class members discuss the reasons why Jesus was the only one who could atone for our sins.
Christ Suffered and Died to Atone for Our Sins
The Savior atoned for our sins by suffering in Gethsemane and by giving his life on the cross. It is impossible for us to fully understand how he suffered for all of our sins. In the Garden of Gethsemane, the weight of our sins caused him to feel such agony and heartbreak that he bled from every pore (see D&C 19:18–19). Later, as he hung upon the cross, Jesus suffered painful death by one of the most cruel methods known to man.
How Jesus loves us, to suffer such spiritual and physical agony for our sake! How great the love of Heavenly Father that he would send his Only Begotten Son to suffer and die for the rest of his children. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).
Discussion
· • Ask class members to imagine themselves in the Garden of Gethsemane as witnesses of the suffering of Jesus Christ. Have someone read the account in Luke 22:39–44.
The Atonement and Resurrection Bring Resurrection to All
On the third day after his crucifixion, Christ took up his body again and became the first person to be resurrected. When his friends went to seek him, the angels who guarded his tomb told them, “He is not here: for he is risen, as he said” (Matthew 28:6). His spirit had reentered his body, never to be separated again.
Christ thus overcame physical death. Because of his atonement, everyone born on this earth will be resurrected (see 1 Corinthians 15:21–22). Just as Jesus was resurrected, our spirits will be reunited with our bodies, “that they can die no more … , never to be divided” (Alma 11:45). This condition is called immortality. All people who have ever lived will be resurrected, “both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous” (Alma 11:44).
Discussion
· • Refer again to the hand and glove. Explain that because Jesus Christ atoned for our sins, all people will someday be resurrected. (Put the glove on your hand.) Our bodies and our spirits will reunite.
The Atonement Makes It Possible for Those Who Have Faith in Christ to Be Saved from Their Sins
The Savior’s atonement makes it possible for us to overcome spiritual death. Although all people will be resurrected with a body of flesh and bone, only those who accept the Atonement will be saved from spiritual death.
We accept Christ’s atonement by placing our faith in him. Through this faith, we repent of our sins, are baptized, receive the Holy Ghost, and obey his commandments. We become faithful disciples of Jesus Christ. We are forgiven and cleansed from sin and prepared to return and live forever with our Heavenly Father.
The Savior tells us, “For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer … even as I” (D&C 19:16–17). Christ did his part to atone for our sins. To make his atonement fully effective in our lives, we must strive to obey him and repent of our sins.
Elder Boyd K. Packer of the Council of the Twelve gave the following illustration to show how Christ’s atonement makes it possible to be saved from sin if we do our part.
“Let me tell you a story—a parable.
“There once was a man who wanted something very much. It seemed more important than anything else in his life. In order for him to have his desire, he incurred a great debt.
“He had been warned about going into that much debt, and particularly about his creditor. But it seemed so important for him to do what he wanted to and to have what he wanted right now. He was sure he could pay for it later.
“So he signed a contract. He would pay it off some time along the way. He didn’t worry too much about it, for the due date seemed such a long time away. He had what he wanted now, and that was what seemed important.
“The creditor was always somewhere in the back of his mind, and he made token payments now and again, thinking somehow that the day of reckoning really would never come.
“But as it always does, the day came, and the contract fell due. The debt had not been fully paid. His creditor appeared and demanded payment in full.
“Only then did he realize that his creditor not only had the power to repossess all that he owned, but the power to cast him into prison as well.
“ ‘I cannot pay you, for I have not the power to do so,’ he confessed.
“ ‘Then,’ said the creditor, ‘we will exercise the contract, take your possessions and you shall go to prison. You agreed to that. It was your choice. You signed the contract, and now it must be enforced.’
“ ‘Can you not extend the time or forgive the debt?’ the debtor begged. ‘Arrange some way for me to keep what I have and not go to prison. Surely you believe in mercy? Will you not show mercy?’
“The creditor replied, ‘Mercy is always so one-sided. It would serve only you. If I show mercy to you, it will leave me unpaid. It is justice I demand. Do you believe in justice?’
“ ‘I believed in justice when I signed the contract,’ the debtor said. ‘It was on my side then, for I thought it would protect me. I did not need mercy then, nor think I should need it ever. Justice, I thought, would serve both of us equally as well.’
“ ‘It is justice that demands that you pay the contract or suffer the penalty,’ the creditor replied. ‘That is the law. You have agreed to it and that is the way it must be. Mercy cannot rob justice.’
“There they were: One meting out justice, the other pleading for mercy. Neither could prevail except at the expense of the other.
“ ‘If you do not forgive the debt there will be no mercy,’ the debtor pleaded.
“ ‘If I do, there will be no justice,’ was the reply.
“Both laws, it seemed, could not be served. They are two eternal ideals that appear to contradict one another. Is there no way for justice to be fully served, and mercy also?
“There is a way! The law of justice can be fully satisfied and mercy can be fully extended—but it takes someone else. And so it happened this time.
“The debtor had a friend. He came to help. He knew the debtor well. He knew him to be shortsighted. He thought him foolish to have gotten himself into such a predicament. Nevertheless, he wanted to help because he loved him. He stepped between them, faced the creditor, and made this offer.
“ ‘I will pay the debt if you will free the debtor from his contract so that he may keep his possessions and not go to prison.’
“As the creditor was pondering the offer, the mediator added, ‘You demanded justice. Though he cannot pay you, I will do so. You will have been justly dealt with and can ask no more. It would not be just.’
“And so the creditor agreed.
“The mediator turned then to the debtor. ‘If I pay your debt, will you accept me as your creditor?’
“ ‘Oh yes, yes,’ cried the debtor. ‘You saved me from prison and show mercy to me.’
“ ‘Then,’ said the benefactor, ‘you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible. I will provide a way. You need not go to prison.’
“And so it was that the creditor was paid in full. He had been justly dealt with. No contract had been broken.
“The debtor, in turn, had been extended mercy. Both laws stood fulfilled. Because there was a mediator, justice had claimed its full share, and mercy was satisfied” (in Conference Report, Apr. 1977, pp. 79–80; or Ensign, May 1977, pp. 54–55).
Our sins are our spiritual debts. Without Jesus Christ, who is our Savior and Mediator, we would all pay for our sins by suffering spiritual death. But because of him, if we will keep his terms, which are to repent and keep his commandments, we may return to live with our Heavenly Father.
It is wonderful that Christ has provided us a way to be healed from our sins. He said:
“Behold, I have come unto the world … to save the world from sin.
“Therefore, whoso repenteth and cometh unto me as a little child, him will I receive, for of such is the kingdom of God. Behold, for such I have laid down my life, and have taken it up again; therefore repent, and come unto me ye ends of the earth, and be saved” (3 Nephi 9:21–22).
Discussion
· • Read Acts 2:38. What must we do to show that we accept the Atonement?
· • Read Doctrine and Covenants 19:16–17. What is the penalty for those who do not accept the atonement of the Savior?
Additional Scriptures
· • Alma 34:9–16 (Atonement necessary; sacrifice of God)
· • Romans 5:12–17 (by one came death, by one came life)
· • Helaman 14:15–18 (purpose of Jesus’ death)
· • Articles of Faith 1:3 (all may be saved)
· • 1 Peter 1:18–20 (Jesus was foreordained)
· • Matthew 16:21 (Jesus’ sacrifice was necessary)
· • Luke 22:39–46 (Jesus’ suffering in the Garden)
· • 1 John 1:7 (Jesus cleanses from sin)
· • 2 Nephi 9:21–22 (the Savior suffered for all people)
· • Mosiah 16:6–8 (resurrection possible only through Jesus)
· • Alma 11:40–45; Mormon 9:12–14 (all to be resurrected)
· • Isaiah 1:18 (sins shall be made white)
· • 1 Corinthians 15:40–44 (description of the Resurrection)



“That We Might Live”
(The Atonement)

cji
1/28/10

Only one good enough
able to lift our burdens
suffer for our transgressions
present a way for our return
from whence we came
our home in the heavens;

We’ve to repent and obey
to be baptized unto Him
learn to forgive and love
learn to forget and seek
putting off the world today
actively be on Zion’s road;

Thus to become as one
as the Father and Son
embracing - remembering
why for the Savior obeyed
one who was without sin
so that we again can live!

Copyright © 2010 – cji

http://whispersofthespirit.yuku.com/topic/10118
(Do We Want to Know?)

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

“Simple Prayers”


“Simple Prayers”

cji
1/20/10

A child kneels to pray
learning on their own
offering their thoughts
talking with Father
unlike we can imagine
thus it’s a simple prayer
one with meanings
a child speaking alone
to a loving Father above
sharing thoughts within!


Copyright © 2010 – cji

Tuesday, January 12, 2010

“Dulling Sensitivity”


Received this today – with my reply:

Hi my friend, my brother.

When one meets new people, and become their friend, sometimes the friends do things that are not in keeping with church standards. I like to socialize on some level with these new friends, and am always careful to hold to LDS standards, but I wonder how the friendship appears "to the world."
I guess I am wondering about "guilt" by association.
Of course there is also the possibility that these friend's actions could "dull" my sensitivity....basically what I am saying is "the first time you hear or see an action you are shocked, the 2nd time less so etc."
What is your viewpoint?


You’ve asked a good question and I’ve been pondering it most of the day! Guilt by association has to be within you and what you feel! No one can cast guilt on an innocent person in the eyes of the Lord! One chooses who to be with – if those one chooses make them feel guilty then they certainly aren’t friends and should be kept at arms distance. Sometimes we cannot choose those who we have to associate with and so we have to make the best of the situation and try to remove ourselves when we’re able. Remember everyone uses another – it’s part of what life and mortality are all about. However, we’ve the choice as to how we allow others to use us!

This is a ‘hard’ question – and thus my reply is equally hard – the doctrine is for those who’ve a testimony and understand what they believe and testify to! The decision tree for a true disciple of the Savior is two-fold: 1) Will this get me closer to the Celestial Kingdom with my family? Yes or No! and 2) If it won’t get me closer then why am I even considering it? Once we truly understand what our mission is here on earth – the peer pressures of the world become much less encumbering. The items included can or might be; friends – music – movies – any temptations (good or bad) – language, or indeed anything we have the ability to choose with our agency.

Socializing is not a requirement given by the Lord – there’s no commandment which says, “You are to socialize!” However, the world considers this of utmost importance. Socializing is much different than running into people, saying ‘hi’ and going on with what you were doing. To socialize you’ve to make the decision this is what you want to do. The decision has to be yours! Many like to excuse this behavior and say, “It’s expected” or some similar wording. Justification is one of the surest ways not to make it to the Celestial Kingdom.

One should never be concerned how anything appears to the world – but how does it appear to the Father and the Son and to those who look to you for leadership and a role model. As an example most know not to smoke around me – or to use foul language. Indeed they know not to offer me coffee, tea or alcoholic beverages. Yet they might drink, smoke and swear – but they know not to do it around me – and when they slip because it’s part of their everyday behavior they apologize to me.

Better let’s use something closer to home – we’ve friends within our Ward and Stake – but we’ve also Brothers and Sisters who we would not outside of the Church consider in our normal definition of friends. We’d do anything in the world for them – as we would for any of Heavenly Father’s children if knowing it’s the right thing to do. But would we socialize with them? My answer has always been, ‘NO!’ Why would this be my answer? Because when I’m around them I can feel the presence of the Spirit depart – because of what they say – or how they say something. Why would I want to socialize with someone who makes the Spirit flee from me?? Now these Brothers and Sisters have held important Church callings and I’ve sustained them in their callings to the best of my ability. Hope this brings home the importance of why we’re here and what we’re to be about. The whole of revelation which we’re each entitled to requires we to be in tune with the Holy Ghost and the in doing so have his Spirit dwell with us all of the time if possible.

As to the LDS standards that will vary as much as night and day depending on who giving the standards definition. However, to live the Lord’s Standards leaves no room for discussion or definition – these Standards are Clear, Concise and Correct!

Lastly to address the issue ‘dulling’ one’s senses or sensitivity. It’s not the idea of being ‘shocked’ or even ‘spaced repetition’ it’s whether the Spirit dwells with you or flees! The Spirit will tell you to depart – it’ll be clear, concise and correct – now whether you do so will be in accordance with your agency. Should you ignore the promptings of the Spirit – the next time it’ll be more vibrant – clear, concise and correct. However, if you again choose to ignore – now you’ve a dulling of your ability to feel – i.e. unfeeling – and will not hear or care that you hear not – see not – and most of all feel not! Outer darkness is a shield against feeling on this earth and in our mortality! However, there is no happiness in outer darkness except the façade presented by the worldly and Satan’s minions. This is why most who leave the Church or go inactive can never leave the Church alone – for they blame the Church for all of their unhappiness. Simple stuff – if they hadn’t joined the Church – made their covenants at Baptism – partaken of the Sacrament to renew this covenant – received the Gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands by those having authority – they wouldn’t feel guilty now for forsaking what they testified they knew to be true.

There are many who fall away – being offended or some other reason (usually one involving the Ten Commandments) and have never denied their testimonies or attacked the Church – and many of these eventually reconcile whatever it was that was bothering them and return to full fellowship. This is different than denying the Holy Ghost which when refuses to listen to the promptings of the Spirit they’re in reality doing – a little at first and then more and more.

The Savior in his wisdom – has always left open the path of repentance – not always easy – but always achievable. Too many say this is what they’ll do in a while – after they’ve satisfied their worldly desires to socialize or otherwise demean the covenants they’ve made at Baptism or by partaking of the Sacrament – going to the Temple, etc. Sadly, this is in error as most forget to return or when they do – their lamentations are harder than they can bear – and the world is too much a part of them to return.

Hopefully this has addressed your question(s) – and that we each must remember where we came from – why we’re here and where we can go if worthy – in the name of Jesus Christ amen – hugs and love your brother - c
“Dulling Sensitivity”

cji
1/13/10

A piece at a time
wearying away
doubt sowed quiet
shaking out truth
blending in things
slowly to erode within
peace found fleeting
meaning without any
dulling sensitivity
the Spirit to flee
empty and alone
darkness filling
gaps and knowledge
soon forgetting all
one piece at a time!


Copyright © 2010 – cji

"This I Know to be True!"


This is my response to someone who continues to email his rhetorical material – wherein some of it may make sense and if of interest – it’s all tied up in man’s wisdom and not a whit to do with what Father and His Son our Savior want us to know or do. When some feel they can change, add or delete to the teachings without proper authority then they are deceived. This is not a contest of wills or of words – this indeed is no contest at all – one needs to share truth as testified by the Spirit of the Holy Ghost and have read the Scriptures (all of them) and have prayed and studied them by themselves and with their loved ones – finding the promises of the Father and the Son fulfilled as in James 1:5 (read the verses before and after) – to know where and what to look for to find the Savior’s Church on this earth. The simple fact most do not want to change or accept what others tell them is a lie (because it benefits them to do so) – will not get anyone into the Celestial Kingdom for Life Eternal if they’ve not the sealing’s which need to be performed on this earth and during their mortality if they could’ve done so.

I’m sure many who read this will ask, “Why doesn’t Chuck let it go?” Chuck won’t let it go because he loves his family and his friends so much that not to share these truths would be devastating to him. These are the most important truths I know: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is true – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Savior’s only Church on this earth and he organized it and called those to lead it in these latter-days. That because of this restoration – a husband and wife can be married for time and all eternity – and have their families sealed to them in the sealing ordinance and covenant – to be binding for time and all eternity if they live to the worthiness to which they’ve covenanted and are found in strict obedience to the Commandments of God! Further I know this to be true – there’s no other way to return to live in the presence of the Father and the Son with our families with a physical body of flesh and bones (which all of the Scriptures testify of) for us living today and have heard or could hear or have learned and discerned these truths. (Again note – little children who’ve died before the age of eight years old or those unable to comprehend or make decisions due to mental inabilities). And finally – this truth as found in Malachi 4:
1. For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall burn as stubble; for they that come shall burn them, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.
4. Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5. Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6. And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so, the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.


My Reply:

You know you keep sending these to me – and for the life of me I cannot figure out why. The Church of Jesus Christ has been restored to this earth in these latter-days – is led by a Prophet of God and 12 (twelve) Apostles. It was restored by the Father and the Son – who visited a 14 year old in answer to his prayers – with the Restored Church came the visit of Angels and Prophets who held the Keys of the Restoration from times gone before. In addition, there’s a second witness to the divinity of our Lord and Savior – Jesus Christ – the Son of the Father who sent him and introduced him to the 14 year old boy.

We’ve the Holy Bible (Old and New Testaments) – The Book of Mormon (the 2nd Testimony) – The Doctrine and Covenants (today’s revelations) and the Pearl of Great Price (the records of Moses and Abraham and the Testimony of Joseph Smith, Jr. – the 14 year old boy). Further there’s irrefutable witnesses to all of these scriptures and revelations – numbering far more than 100 with firsthand knowledge and over thousands with second and third hand knowledge.

We’re all veterans of the military – in one way or another – and Heavenly Father would never hinder man from doing right and testifying of His Only Begotten – however, one has to have the Priesthood Keys and Authority through the laying on of hands by one having this authority (which is nowhere found in world except in His Son’s Restored Church). One cannot take a live branch from a dead tree – the apostasy which occurred in the Church as established by the Savior in the meridian of time are those who apostatized within 150 years or by the middle of the 2nd Century (and those who didn’t apostatize were killed off by the so-called churches which followed or reformed the ‘teachings’ mixed with Greek Philosophy and Rhetoric starting with the Gnostics and continuing through St. Augustine and Origen of the 3rd, 4th and 5th Century. Religion as the world knew during the days until the early 1800’s were and all but one continue this day to be the works of men. Yes some – maybe even most do some good – however they’ve neither keys nor authority other than what man has given and taken – and is paid or paid for.

Suffice to say – all men/women are saved through the Atonement of the Savior on our behalf (with the exception of those who deny the Holy Ghost and/or commit murder which is to shed innocent blood). But being saved is just that – one won’t go into eternal torment with Satan and his followers – but will not have life eternal, which is to return to the presence of Heavenly Father and our Savior Jesus Christ – with a physical body of flesh and bone as they both have – and dwell with them and their families.

Thus someone coming to any church which requires them to pay the wages of those who Preach, Minister, or otherwise lead their organization whether the Catholic Church or a corner ministry will not get them Life Eternal. The Plan of Salvation was to come here to receive a physical body and to exercise our agency to choose right or wrong! (Note: those who died before the age of eight – which was much of the world’s population until relative recent history or those who are mentally unable to make decisions – autistic, etc. will and have already returned to the Father and the Son because of the Atonement.)

In any event most of this will fall on deaf ears as it has when I’ve responded to you in the past – however, so you’ll be able to deny you heard it again from me – I testify in the name of Jesus Christ – our Lord and Savior – that the above is true – that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true Church upon the face of this earth – and it’s led today by a Prophet of God – Thomas S. Monson and I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ amen – Charles J. Ingerson



“This I Know to be True!”

cji
1/12/10

That my Savior lives
that he love me too
thus through it all
peace and happiness
finding warmth within
sharing as I can all
this I know to be true
that my Savior lives!

Copyright © 2010 – cji

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

“When a Prophet Speaks*”


“When a Prophet Speaks*”

cji
9/24/09

When a Prophet speaks
representing the Father
speaking through the Son
where are we found to be?

Throwing stones then to flee
what work will then be done
will we take time to bother
what will our actions speak?

Ignorance found in this bliss
most ignore and turn away
apathy controlling our time
following another instead?

Where will be our eternal bed
what will be our histories line
will we the Saviors course stay
ever attentive so as to not miss?


Copyright © 2009 – cji


"2 Nephi 26:20 And the Gentiles are lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and have stumbled, because of the greatness of their stumbling block, that they have built up many churches; nevertheless, they put down the power and miracles of God, and preach up unto themselves their own wisdom and their own learning, that they may get gain and grind upon the face of the poor.
21 And there are many churches built up which cause envyings, and strifes, and malice.
22 And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever.
23 For behold, my beloved brethren, I say unto you that the Lord God worketh not in darkness.
24 He doeth not anything save it be for the benefit of the world; for he loveth the world, even that he layeth down his own life that he may draw call men unto him. Wherefore, he commandeth none that they shall not partake of his salvation.
25 Behold, doth he cry unto any, saying: Depart from me? Behold, I say unto you, Nay; but he saith: Come unto me all ye bends of the earth, buy milk and honey, without money and without price.
26 Behold, hath he commanded any that they should depart out of the synagogues, or out of the houses of worship? Behold, I say unto you, Nay.
27 Hath he commanded any that they should not partake of his salvation? Behold I say unto you, Nay; but he hath given it free for all men; and he hath commanded his people that they should persuade all men to repentance.
28 Behold, hath the Lord commanded any that they should not partake of his goodness? Behold I say unto you, Nay; but all men are privileged the one like unto the other, and none are forbidden.
29 He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold, priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion.
30 Behold, the Lord hath forbidden this thing; wherefore, the Lord God hath given a commandment that all men should have charity, which charity is clove. And except they should have charity they were nothing. Wherefore, if they should have charity they would not suffer the laborer in Zion to perish.
31 But the laborer in Zion shall labor for Zion; for if they labor for money they shall perish.
32 And again, the Lord God hath commanded that men should not murder; that they should not lie; that they should not steal; that they should not take the name of the Lord their God in vain; that they should not envy; that they should not have malice; that they should not contend one with another; that they should not commit whoredoms; and that they should do none of these things; for whoso doeth them shall perish.
33 For none of these iniquities come of the Lord; for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men; and he inviteth them ball to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile."

“Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

*(General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - is Oct. 3-4, 2009 when again the Prophet on this earth will speak)

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Sunday, September 20, 2009

"Who Am I?" (A short quiz on the Gospel of Jesus Christ)


1. Do you read the Scriptures daily? Yes No
2. Do you have regular family prayer morning and nigh? Yes No (N/A if no family)
3. Do you have private and personal prayer every day? Yes No
4. Do you have prayer before meals (not routine but prayers of that day and meal)? Yes No
5. Do you believe that the Savior is the Son of Heavenly Father? Yes No
6. Do you believe the teachings of the Prophets as the word of God? Yes No
7. Do you believe in personal revelation? Yes No
8. Do you believe in eternal life? Yes No
9. Do you have a Temple Recommend? Yes No
10. Do you keep the Ten Commandments*? Yes No (Remember #7 and knowing the Mind of God)



*The Ten Commandments
Exodus 20:2–17
Deuteronomy 5:6–21
Exodus 34:11–27
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 Do not have any other gods before me.
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.
12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
13 You shall not murder.
14 You shall not commit adultery.
15 You shall not steal.
16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
6 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
7 you shall have no other gods before me.
8 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,
10 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
11 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
12 Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you.
13 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
14 But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you.
15 Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.
16 Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
17 You shall not murder.
18 Neither shall you commit adultery.
19 Neither shall you steal.
20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor.
21 Neither shall you covet your neighbor’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbor’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
11 Observe what I command you today. See, I will drive out before you the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites.
12 Take care not to make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land to which you are going, or it will become a snare among you.
13 You shall tear down their altars, break their pillars, and cut down their sacred poles
14 (for you shall worship no other god, because the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God).
15 You shall not make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to their gods, someone among them will invite you, and you will eat of the sacrifice.
16 And you will take wives from among their daughters for your sons, and their daughters who prostitute themselves to their gods will make your sons also prostitute themselves to their gods.
17 You shall not make cast idols.
18 You shall keep the festival of unleavened bread. For seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you, at the time appointed in the month of Abib; for in the month of Abib you came out from Egypt.
19 All that first opens the womb is mine, all your male livestock, the firstborn of cow and sheep.
20 The firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb, or if you will not redeem it you shall break its neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem.
No one shall appear before me empty-handed.
21 For six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even in ploughing time and in harvest time you shall rest.
22 You shall observe the festival of weeks, the first fruits of wheat harvest, and the festival of ingathering at the turn of the year.
23 Three times in the year all your males shall appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel.
24 For I will cast out nations before you, and enlarge your borders; no one shall covet your land when you go up to appear before the Lord your God three times in the year.
25 You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven, and the sacrifice of the festival of the passover shall not be left until the morning.
26 The best of the first fruits of your ground you shall bring to the house of the Lord your God.
You shall not boil a kid in its mother’s milk.
27 The Lord said to Moses: Write these words; in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.




Now if you’ve answered “No” to any of the above questions – it’s probable that the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not fully understood. Granted everyone has problems in full understanding and knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as a fully resurrected being – having a body of flesh and bone – dwelling with his Father and our Heavenly Father – at his right side – this is what’s taught in the Holy Bible (Old and New Testament) – but seldom taught in its fullness by the various venues of religion. It’s recommended that all (everyone) fully read the Old and New Testaments – prayerfully and asking for understanding (James 1:5) – asking themselves is this what I’m being taught and if not where can I learn this material which is needful for Eternal Life (which is quite different than just being Saved – which all men are (with the exception of those who shed innocent blood or deny the Holy Ghost). One needs have faith – rather than unbelief – obedience rather than disobedience – regardless how the world makes things of more worth than either truth or obedience. The world teaches not to be obedient is simply an old wives tale – it was meant for the those who lived in the past – not with those who’ve TV’s; movies; sports; fishing boats; or other worldly advantages that the scriptures could not have known about.



“Who Am I?”

cji
9/20/09

Wherefore am I here
seeking more to learn
the world knowing to fear
greater truth to discern;

Who am I now to become
what is the model to know
all of my life to be a sum
and as like the Son to grow;

Where can I go from here
into life everlasting in light
as God, Savior and Seer
opening all to me sight?

Copyright © 2009 – cji

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Saturday, September 19, 2009

“Epiphany of Serendipitous Thought”


“Epiphany of Serendipitous Thought”

cji
9/20/09

Heavenly Father expects a lot from each of us - much more than most will either give or know to give or want to give. Some things are out of our control and we also know from the Scriptures that this is most wicked of all the generations of mankind to inhabit the planet (3rd from the Sun). Now what is it we should be doing? For most it's self-accountability and self-responsibility in keeping the Ten Commandments - The Statutes and The Laws of Father! Most haven't a clue as to what these are and use them only as a convenience to condemn, judge, or self justify. Further we're to watch out (this means take action where able and how able) of the sick, the homeless, the orphan, the poor, the naked and the widow! These were the laundry list of which Job's peers accused him of not doing when he was being tempted. These are the things which James and many others teach over and over - and it's also the example set by the Savior while upon the Earth. Next we should always seek the 'truth' and this is a real challenge as most would have us believe truth is only convenient to who's telling the story at the time and how many enemies they have to reword or revise if needful. However, there is truth available - but one has to dig – how many have gone back and read the works already translated from the original text's found from the periods of 3000BC to 150AD? One would guess very few - but these are not corrupted (as yet) by man (but they might be as most churches in the world tried to write them off as Gnostic rather than accept them). How many have read the Scriptures and actually prayed about them – all of them?? Most are told not to read some and to yet read others - revised for their convenience. How many allow others to decide what is truth and what is not? How many profess a love of the Savior yet ignore or kill His Prophets? How many teach that the Father and the Son are changeable and not the same yesterday, today and forever? How many would rather have the approval of peers - ignore simple truths - and be satisfied with worldly concerns than with eternal concerns? The list is endless - as whatever needs to be said has already been said by one or more Prophet's of God and man just refuses to accept what they say 'literally' (excepting the allegories used to explain an example) as they reject the Bible or other Scriptures as being literally true!! Man would rather self-indulge themselves into believing they're important and will some effect on the world or even over a part of the world. Delusional men seek power and dominion – some by any means possible. The delusional public are led to believe that a difference can be made to the inherent evil of Satan and those who choose to follow him and his angels. One can negotiate all day long with a stone - the stone for its part will sit there and not argue or disagree - it'll just most likely sit there and do nothing. One can come away from the experience thinking they accomplished something (other than to waste their time). Some will even 'revise' the script to make it seem they had a successful negotiation. All of the issues were resolved - however the stone agreed to nothing and by its silence it did nothing. However, in the realms of men - one having authority who sits and does nothing while decisions appear to be reached is giving what's known as 'passive consent' and can be legally binding. And men go away beguiled they've an agreement - legally binding only to learn that the person who sat quietly and said nothing - is an inherent liar, deceiver and believes in no law. However - and this is important - this self same liar, etc. will hold anyone who negotiates with them to all of the terms and conditions - because he/she knows they do believe in law! Thus at the Judgment Bar - Satan will invoke the Law of Justice - and only the Savior can invoke the Law of Mercy because he's paid the price of our sins. Now consider further that many who will cry for mercy at the Judgment Bar - will profess to have known the Savior - and will only hear, "Depart hence – you know me not!" They'll claim to have taught in his name - but their cause will be lost because they kept not the Commandments - nor did they harkens unto the Apostles and Prophets which have been sent to this earth – and even now stand upon it. Further, they’ve taught the Gospel of Men (Greek Philosophy i.e. rhetorical thoughts aimed to please one and all in the world), mixed with some of the doctrines found in the Scriptures. Indeed they’ve changed and reworded to deny the divinity of the Savior as the literal Son of the Father – and to make them as they would have others believe by sheer numbers and schools.
What's worse is many will feel like those above - and say we following him/her because they taught of the Savior - but yet neither they nor them sought the council or authority from a Prophet of God – instead they and those who followed them taught there was no Prophet in these latter-days and that there were no more Scriptures - and many of the things of men included their strange and incoherent creeds. Therefore, depending on who we’ve followed – will depend on whether we’ll face the Law of Justice – or have the intervention of the Law of Mercy.Heavenly Father expects us to sort through all of the trash provided by men - to sift the wheat from the tares - to glean the harvest - and to return unto our Heavenly Father and His Only Begotten (in the Flesh) our Savior. This is expecting a lot to many - but really pretty simple stuff and it makes common sense, much in difference to the confusion of the teachings of men/women of the world.
“Epiphany of Serendipitous Thought”

cji
9/20/09

Quaking when one stops to think
eternal truths we’re able to link;

Revelations come within the light
allowing further discerning insight;

Epiphany of serendipitous thought
in common sense each is taught;

Wherein to face the Law of Justice
or the Law of Mercy for our peace;

Each Sabbath Day we come to hear
doctrine pure, in truth and clear!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Thursday, September 10, 2009

"An Island"


A friend once indicated that he wishes we had an island to go to and protect our families, loved ones and ourselves. In thinking about my answer these are the thoughts which I found coming into my mind. Thus this is my short answer – deeply troubling as so many think they’ve time to be obedient.

In reality we do have an Island – the Gospel is an Island from the storms of the world – however – obedience to all of the Commandments, Covenants, Statutes and Laws is the Life Jacket and boat which will take us to the Island. Most as St. Augustine pray as follows, “Lord help me to be clean, but not just yet!” As the Prophets have said – in the past and in modern days – too many don’t want to sacrifice their sins – just yet!

I.e. On the Sabbath - one more movie on; one more football game; one more hunting trip; or in the privacy of one’s home; or on any day of the week - one more R or X rated movie; one more word of profanity; one more refusal to help those in need; one more new toy; and the list goes on and on as we remove ourselves from the island of safety and build bridges to the world and the worldly.

Most reject the island for now – like St. Augustine just wanting a little more time to sin. Knowing the island is always there and they can go to it when there’s still time. It’s like catching a train or a flight – missing it and thinking well there’ll be another. Too many in the meantime forget how to swim – sell all of their boats – don’t have a life raft or saver to wear. The trip to the island is always there but the means to get there are slowly eliminated without one even knowing they’d lost their ability to get there.

Consider the direction which some give to being in obedience to the Commandments one must choose carefully who to follow. Yes the world is great for giving excuses – football, swimming, tennis, golf, fishing, hunting, racing (horses/cars) and so many more ways to break just one of the Ten Commandments. Think of how many more the world has for the other nine! To be obedient is easy if one is willing to be obedient. Yet if one is looking for excuses the world is full of them – but one has to choose who they’ll follow – either the world and worldly or the Father and the Son!


“An Island”

cji
9/11/09

Some only dream
believing it’s enough
awaking to a scream
no longer found tough;

Wishes making wrong
seem right and good
either weak or strong
for excuses they stood;

Thus the island is lost
somewhere in the mist
troubling now is the cost
having the world kissed!


Copyright © 2009 – cji

Sunday, September 6, 2009

"Clarifications"


In the most recent essay, “How To, Want To, Need To … Will To Do” there are two areas which need some clarification. The following will be to bring more light to my understanding and clarification so that there can be no doubt to my meanings.

"They in doing so take away the Divinity of the Savior and His Father – Our Heavenly Father – treating them like men/women and not as the Gods which they are and forever will be known."

Our Heavenly Father, or the Father of Our Savior is the same which is referred to at the time of the Baptism of the Savior – when the heavens parted and a voice declared, This is my Beloved Son, in whom I’m well pleased!” Matthew 3:17; Matthew 17:5; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:35; 2 Peter 1:17: Doctrine and Covenants 93:15 and Joseph Smith History 1:17! This is the Father to whom the Savior referred to in all that he did – (the Scriptures are too numerous to mention all – but anyone referring to the life of the Savior in mortality will find a plethora of references). This is the Father with whom we knew in the Pre-existence and to who we will know as we come to know His Son and Our Savior Jesus Christ! This is the Father as testified of by Stephen prior to being stoned, Acts 7:55-56!

Now as a transfer to the Son – Our Lord and Savior with this verse of Scripture: 3 Nephi 9:15 “Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God, I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that are in them are, I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name.” Always remembering, 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

Our Savior Jesus Christ is the same as testified to by His Father – Our Heavenly Father (see Scriptures above) and who exemplified in all his teachings that he was indeed the Christ spoken of by the Prophets. Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of the Old Testament who spoke with the Prophets – face to face – and to which all of the Prophets have testified of in their ministries. Jesus Christ is whom we are to know – intimately – as our brother – our friend – our advocate with the Father – and most of all our Savior who through His Atonement removed Spiritual Death from this Earth and has allowed all men to be saved (less those who deny the Holy Ghost or shed innocent blood). Yet this same Jesus Christ has covenanted that there is more than just being saved – there’s life eternal to return with Him (Jesus Christ) to Our Father in Heaven in the Celestial Kingdom. Paul further tells us of the various kingdoms in 1 Cor. 15:14 (this information is further explained in the Doctrine and Covenants -131:1).

There is only one way to know and confirm the above and that is through the Holy Ghost which testifies of all truth! One must humble themselves – put away the world and worldly – repent of their wrong-doings and pray unto the Father – through our advocate the Savior and ask is this be true! If it is true – then the Holy Ghost will testify it to you!

James 1:5-7 – “If any of you lack wisdom let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.”

"Let’s not misunderstand many of those who teach in such a manner are good men and women – they’ve great worth – help rear good families – but and this is a big but – they surely know what they’re teaching is not in harmony with the literal truth of the Bible!"

Throughout the Scriptures there are many truths revealed to all men in the Bible – these are to what I refer that we believe ‘literally’ and testify of in all we do, think and say. This would include the Flood, the escape from Egypt, the dividing of the seas, walking on water, feeding the thousands, Jesus being the Son of the Father, the testimonies of the Prophets, and this list would continue to include all of the truths found in the Scriptures.

Let us note that the Savior taught in parables and these are used figuratively to explain or bring understanding to another. It’s taking something which one is familiar with – to teach a true principle with which they are not familiar with. In teaching our children as parents we do this daily – trying to simplify difficult things which they must learn. We understand these teachings – and what their intent is to accomplish – these would be different from the ‘literal truths’ of the Scriptures. (E.G. Eve is the mother of all people and God is like a hen) and much that is not to be taken figuratively (E.G. Mary is the Savior's mother and the Atonement is Infinite).

This would also include the Ten Commandments and the other Commandments added to these by the Father – through the Son (Our Savior) in his teachings and through the Prophets. The Ten Commandments are not suggestions – are not to be violated – are not to be changed (per se’ by man without the gift of being a Seer, Revelator and Prophet). (It should be noted that to my understanding never has a Prophet, Revelator or Seer ever changed any of the Ten Commandments or the others taught and given to man/woman by the Father – through the Savior – via their Prophets.)

When one begins to question the teachings of the Scriptures – or begins to interpret them for another without the proper authority from the Savior and/or through the Prophets – one is on very thin razors. Those who assume by going to schools or taking upon themselves to act in the name of the Father or the Son without having received the proper authority then they are acting under false authority. When one declares the heavens are closed – or the Scriptures cannot be added to or changed (while revising them) must have received revelations – which they’ve said have ceased. They cannot have it both ways – either they’ve received revelation to revise the Bible – to confirm there’s no more revelations – or that the Bible is all there is! When one takes it upon themselves to add or delete from the Bible or Scriptures – which man has done continuously since the late 1st Century starting at about 70AD.

The Scriptures were written for everyone to be able to read them and understand (see James 1:5-7 above)! Presentations like my effort are to encourage one to read prayerfully what’s in the Scriptures for themselves. To humble themselves to decide if there’s one true Church (1 Nephi 14:10) (also see wherein Paul talks about how the Church should be called when he found they were using a variety of names during his travels); or if there should be many? Should men be called to the Priesthood by those without authority or of those with authority of the Father and the Son?

Finally again the most important aspect of all of this; Marriage – eternal Marriage – a Marriage which transcends the grave – passes through the veil – having a family which is eternal forever and ever. Matthew 16:19 “And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 1 Peter 3:7 “Likewise, ye husbands, swell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.” Where is this sealing ordinance found – and if it’s not found then Malachi 4:5-6 – “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” Doctrine and Covenants 2:1-3 “Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so, the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.”

Why is this so important to the Father and the Son (Our Savior)? The first ordinance of the Gospel was the marriage of Adam and Eve – first before all else – and they were married in the Garden of Eden – a marriage without end – no, ‘till death do you part’ or any other such wording. Performed the one having authority – which in these latter days has been restored – for it has not, “the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.” Thus the purpose of this earth was to bring into mortality – flesh and bone (as the Father and the Son) to our spirits from the pre-existence and to become families in marriage of one man and one woman – and their children. If this ordinance cannot be found on this earth at this time – which all recognize as the Latter-days – then why not? If this is the purpose of our creation and the worth of this world – why would it be omitted? (Note: Only due to the restraints of subject I’ll not go into Baptism for the Dead – however, will refer all readers to Paul and his teachings in 1 Cor. 15:29 and from Doctrine and Covenants 127.) It’s through the authority and power of the Priesthood in which these sealing ordinances and baptism for the dead are preformed which can reunite families for the eternities.

Thus if these are indeed the Latter-days – this is most important for all of us to study the Scriptures – to learn to know the Savior intimately – and thus learn to know the Father – for one testifies of the other. We will thus have the understanding of why we need to be obedient to all of the Commandments and what it’s we should be doing in seeking out one Church which teaches all of the saving ordinances for the salvation and eternal life of men/women on this earth. This is not something which one can have another do for them while they’re here in mortality – each must be accountable and responsible for themselves and their families.

These truths are real and evident in the Scriptures – Jesus is the Christ – he came to this Earth to do His Father’s will – our Heavenly Father – and through them and their anointed Prophets we might also return unto them with eternal life forever and ever with our families. I further testify that the Gospel of Jesus Christ in its fullness has been restored in these latter-days and is now on this earth with the keys and authority to bind families in the sealing ordinances and baptisms for the dead for time and all eternity. And that Thomas S. Monson is the LORD’s anointed Prophet on this earth at this time. And I leave these things with you my family, friends and strangers – in the name of Jesus Christ – amen. cjingerson

John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world, he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”


“Clarifications”

cji
9/06/09

Seeking no error here
or understanding not
making oneself clear
a message not forgot;

Clarifications so made
where all might know
which waters to wade
in eternal life to grow!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

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Thursday, September 3, 2009

“How To, Want To; Need To … Will To Do”


“How To, Want To; Need To … Will To Do”
Charles J. Ingerson
3 September 2009

Preface:

While many flounder in today’s world and find themselves both lost and feeling alone by the teachings of men/women found confusing and ambiguous – others are able to find the opposite in peace, sureness and strength in the direct teachings of the Savior and his Prophets and Apostles. The clarion clear teachings of the Savior throughout the ages are simple to understand, easy to apply and worth the time expended to learn!

The question then which first comes to mind – is what is the difference in the teachings of men/women and the Savior?

To clarify the men/women referred to are those who profess degrees of Divinity or Secular Learning and called by themselves (or others of the world) to be Preachers, Priests, Rabbi’s, Ministers, Deacons, Fathers, or any other of the worldly designations to preach a doctrine of Philosophies and Scriptures for money as the Gospel of Jesus Christ or in some religions The Will of Allah, or simply God’s Will. Thus in their rhetorical teachings they seek to pacify with minimal involvement of those being taught – power, wealth and community prestige. Some do this knowingly to deceive, beguile and misrepresent – while others do it because they believe it’s for the good of the whole – while still some because it’s a way to provide a living for them and their families.

This is with quiet understanding and strength to say, no one can read the Scriptures literally and then turn and teach the opposite or variations of what is found in the Scriptures knowingly. To pretend to believe the teachings of the Prophets are vague, mysterious, questionable, changeable, or otherwise in need of interpretation is wrong! They in doing so take away the Divinity of the Savior and His Father – Our Heavenly Father – treating them like men/women and not as the God’s which they are and forever will be known.

For those who declare that the Heavens are closed – there’s no more revelations – no more need for Prophets and Apostles is to deny ‘in toto’ the reality of the Father and the Son and they’re teachings. It regulates the Father and the Son to mere mortality and to be changeable – which simply is not an eternal truth!
Let’s not misunderstand many of those who teach in such a manner are good men and women – they’ve great worth – help rear good families – but and this is a big but – they surely know what they’re teaching is not in harmony with the literal truth of the Bible! Some of this is not their fault, per se, but instead the ‘peer pressure’ of centuries of misrepresentation of those who ‘stole’ the Bible and the Teachings of the Savior and Prophets and in their place – gave the Greek Philosophical Rhetoric teachings. They did this so as to enhance those in power and to generate power for themselves. Some did it in such a way that much of the Bible was lost or destroyed – revised – or simply ignored. Some had anyone who disagreed with what they taught – killed (much like is happening today). Some as in days of old ‘stoned’ the Prophets, Apostles and Disciples – while today or in the last two hundred years – have simply done all in their power to destroy anyone teaching such things and the Bible is to be taken literally and that the Heavens are Open and that the Church has been restored in these latter-days.

What equally begs the questions is why so much contention among the various churches?

Killing, destroying, etc. sounds not like the teachings of the Savior – but more along the lines of the adversary – or Satan. Good comes from the Savior – while evil, contention and wrong/bad comes from Satan. Thus one cannot use the tools of one to promote the tools of the other. One can either be one with the Father and the Son – or they are with the adversary – Satan. This is pretty simple doctrine.

In addition, there’s no theologian alive who does not recognize the changes made to the Bible (Scriptures) over the past 2000 years (with many being done in the last 130 years. Prophets of the Old Testament are missing completely – versus have been altered in order to change their meanings – order of the Books of the Old and New Testament are not ‘per se’ chronological – and the list could continue.

Each church in the world – some 60,000 plus alone in the US – must each claim to be the only one and true church on the earth today – they have to or otherwise understand they are in variance with the Scriptures. If they do not make this singular claim – then they’ve no reason to be a Church (See Ephesians Chapter 4)!

How can one know where to turn for truth?

The Savior has taught that revelation – personal revelation will come unto those who exercise faith, prayer, works of service and who’ve a pure heart and love of the Father and the Son! For when one is found in this condition then the Spirit will reveal truth unto each person individually. Therefore each can learn for themselves where to turn to learn of truth.
It’s also important to recognize the difference between good and evil – so as to know where to look. In order to do one must learn to know God the Father and His Son our Savior – for without this knowledge one will only flounder amidst the wind and waves.
1 JN 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God; Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
John 7: 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
John 17: 3 And this is life eternal that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
There’s no difficultly in learning who the Father and the Son are – and our relationship to them – however, one must read the Scriptures themselves to learn of this knowledge!

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

In verse 23 – is an apparent mistake in translation or transmission – for the Savior is all knowing and therefore would know of all people – good and evil – however, if this Scripture would read – as translated by a Prophet of God – verse 23 – And then will I profess unto them, YOU never knew me; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” It makes sense and restores the attributes of Our Savior – and allowing for importance of US knowing Him and His Father! Of course the Father and the Son know each of us – and they know us each quite well – therefore when we pray and speak with them – we can know that they know and love us – for if this were not so – then they would not be Gods! (End of Note for review)

The Scriptures teach us about the Father and the Son – even with the manmade changes and omissions and deletions – they teach singularly about the Father and the Son – for what other purpose would they have?

The Scriptures teach us about the Commandments – the Laws – the Statutes – the Gospel Ordinances – the Covenants – all of which we need to understand to return with our families to them! What parent would not teach their children all that they need to know to return safely home?

Within the History – there’s wisdom being taught – for if we learn from history we can avoid the pitfalls and mistakes of others – a Prophet of God - Samuel has said,
1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken that the fat of rams..

Yet men would rather not ‘obey’ and would rather wait to ‘sacrifice – i.e. repent’ and enjoy their sin just a little longer. This is why they’re Ten Commandments (with two more added in these Latter-days) but the Ten will suffice. In our day many like to think of the Ten Commandments are general suggestions – or that they interfere with the division between Church and State – or in reality they’re out dated with the singular exception of Thou Shalt Not Kill!

We’ll do a quick review of the Ten Commandments – to compare what we’re to be obedient to – and what the world feels they mean. First we’ll look at what the Savior felt were the most important – and in obedience to these two – one would also be obedient to the other eight:

Matthew 22: 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

These are very simple to understand and apply in our lives – however, for those who’ve worldly designs and feelings – they’re the opposite of what is felt to be necessary. If we love the Lord thy God – we will keep all of the Commandments without exception.

The world having difficulty in even believing in a God or Gods – or defining what they were – unknown, indescribable, without body or form or substance – to them it’s like Wendy and Casper – nice to think about without any meaning. This is neither slighting nor foolish – what the mind cannot visualize it cannot believe! So in spite of the numerous descriptions of both the Father and the Son – by multiple witnesses (Isaiah, Moses, Abraham, Peter, James, John, Stephen, Paul to name a few) – found throughout the Scriptures men/women will not accept these truths – or if they do – it’s with a sense they are not literally true! One might call their belief one of convenience – but not really what they believe privately.

Man/woman have further taken the idea of Loving one’s neighbor as themselves – to a general profession of love – but let the government take care of those less fortunate than themselves. To better understand this – is to understand love and service are one and the same – (see James 1:27) – meaning we are to do what’s needful – for our neighbors as we would do for ourselves.

When one reflects on these two great commandments – one can easily see that if were to be simply obedient to these two the rest would become unneedful. For who would steal, kill, covet, commit adultery, not honor their parents, keep the Sabbath Day holy, not bear false witness or take the name of the Lord in vain?

However, while asking questions about the first two commandments – men/women or the world have allowed wavering on the remaining eight commandments. One can go nowhere – without hearing the Lord’s name taken or used in vain! On any given Sabbath Day – stores, restaurants, sporting events, pleasure taking, or otherwise finding ways not to keep the day holy abound. Adultery is not only condoned but promoted – i.e. remember that adultery is any sexual relationship outside of a legal marriage between a man and a woman. The schools teach it as a ‘way of life’ – the movies, TV, media and press present a glorified view – books and magazines present sexual transgression in all of its varied forms.

Killing is a daily event in our news reporting – coveting what another owns is common-place – honor of parents is attacked daily in music and media – as well as in the schools – till the family as seen by the government of the land is almost no longer the standard. One almost would look at the radio programs of the 1950’s pushing for families to go to Church – work together – to become stronger as being science fiction. Lying is common place – and is centered from our supposed leaders of our nation – into the home and schools of our nation. Sadly – cheating, lying, stealing are all approved behavior – unless one is caught and can create news to sell advertising – does it garner much attention.

Idol worship needs only be referenced as common place and within the media – music – video interest – have made otherwise character actor and crooners into household names and symbols of worship. One needs only to consider the recent death of one of this group and the media, press and idealization made of his life.

Yet how can we be found in obedience to the Ten Commandments?

First and foremost one has to know what the Ten Commandments say and mean. To do this one must read the Scriptures! Anything else is second hand at best. Read what the Savior presented and how Moses presented them to those of his group fleeing Egypt. A commandment is a hard and fast direction to follow without movement to the right or the left. A commandment puts forth what is to be done and is simple enough for all to discern how they should behave to be found in obedience.

Thus we learn the How To – by reading the Scriptures – pondering upon them – praying unto the Father – and being open to the promptings of the Spirit. We have also to have the Want To – to be obedient – ‘…to obey – rather than sacrifice…’ – and understand the Need To – for our eternal salvation and eternal life – thus knowing of the will to do the will of the Father and the Son.

The Ten Commandments are the word and teachings of the Father and the Son – they give moral and pure guidance as to how we can learn to know who they are – and our relationship to them. They are counter to almost everything one can find within the world of men/women – either today or in the millennium gone by since the time of Adam and Eve. They contain a wisdom which supersedes anything brought to the forum by the schools of men/women. They give us a direction and plan to apply in our individual lives and thus to our loved ones to follow.

We need to be found in obedience to the Ten Commandments for the Savior has said, “If ye love me, keep my Commandments!” That’s pretty simple direction and clarification of what it means to love the Father and the Son (for remember the Son does nothing that he’s not seen his Father do!).
Therefore we’ve to have the ‘want to’ – the want to be obedient and we know what we’re to be obedient to – with all that’s expected! There’s no excuse for anyone who can read – and understand – what’s expected. If with this knowledge we choose not to be obedient or to follow the ways of the world then we will be held accountable and responsible for all that we do – and cannot blame the world or the temptations of the adversary. We exercise the Want To though our agency to choose the right over the wrong!

Next we need to address the Need To!

We need to be obedient – we know the how to and should have the desire of the Want To – now we need to apply the Need To. What do we need to do? We need to be found doing the Will of the Father and the Son in all of our lives – not just in private – but in all we think, say and do. We need to willingly be found obedient in all things as they relate to the Father and the Son! Anything which deviates from this obedience is unacceptable to the Father and the Son! Thou Shalt – doesn’t sound like a suggestion or even like a maybe – however it is a Commandment!!

Much to the surprise of many we’ve also to be obedient to the Statutes and Laws and all the words of the Savior! Yes, most know of the Ten Commandments – but yet there’s more – and it’s found in the Scriptures – without guile or guise – we’ve been taught by the Savior and the Prophets and the Apostles. If one has not read and pondered all of the Scriptures then they most likely do not know all of the Commandments, Statutes and Laws of the Father and the Son.

If one lets others read and teach what they believe the Scriptures say – then one is still accountable and responsible for what is really said, intended and to be done! Or better what we need to be doing in our mortal probations. Anyone who believes differently than this is wrong! This is one area of our mortal probation it would be very wise not to be wrong!

The need to read, pray, to be in righteous service to others, pondering and daily reporting and speaking with Father – through the Son. This doesn’t mean idle oft repetitive prayers – but to sincerely enter into conversation with the Father. We need to have continual open lines of communications that we might be able to feel the promptings of the Spirit in our daily lives.

We need to know the Scriptures – for several reasons – but among them the most important are: 1) to be obedient – as we’ve been commanded to read and ponder the Scriptures; 2) in them we will find the voice of the Father and the Son – we’ll learn to discern their voices and that of their servants the Prophets and Apostles – as we know the voice of our family or loved ones; 3) we need to learn from the mistakes and righteous choices of those who’ve gone before – what they experienced – the differences between the righteous and unrighteous; 4) we need to learn what exactly obedience means to each of us individually and as a family – and that this is to choose the right; 5) we need to read the Scriptures so that they and we are one – as the Father and the Son are one; and 6) we need to know who we are – why we’re here and where we can go if found in total obedience to the Father and the Son.

When the Savior was on the earth in his mortal ministry – when he taught what did he teach? He taught from the Scriptures – and he taught as one having authority! For those who followed him he opened the Scriptures to them as none had before. Even as a child in the Temple the great men surrounded him as he taught them correctness and clarity of the Scriptures.

What do Angels teach when they appear unto men/women? They teach the Scriptures – nothing more or less! They bring awareness and life into these sacred words for our understanding.

What are we commanded to teach to our brothers and sisters – to our children – to our friends and also strangers? We’re commanded to teach the Scriptures – and to call unto repentance and to come unto the Lord. The only way this can be done by us – is to know the Scriptures – to know the Father and the Son – intimately! We need to know who we are – why we’re here and where if worthy we will be going!

Now there’s more difficulty as unlike what man teaches that the Scriptures are closed – and there is no need for more; in which they limit the powers of the Father and the Son; the Scriptures are open – there’s continual revelation and thus we’ve to be keeping up. If one doesn’t believe that the heavens are open – and instead believe what men and the schools teach, they’ve made their decision based not on the Scriptures but on the wisdom of men!

We need to understand the difference between the motivation of men/women (and the world) and that of the Father and the Son. The world is motivated by wealth, power, avarice, lusts, greed’s and cares about the self first and others second. Selfishness is the motivation of the world – simple and clear – they can color it anyway they want – it’s still selfishness.

The Motivation of the Father and the Son – is that man/woman might have joy – and this joy is in righteousness – being found in the righteous service of others making sure all are cared for to their abilities. In being so motivated they gave man/woman agency – the ability to choose righteousness and thus to be happy and have joy. There’s no joy to be had in unrighteousness – and anyone who claims to the opposite they do not understand the Scriptures. Redundantly speaking – happiness (or joy) can only be found in obedience to the Father and the Son. This motivation of the Father and the Son is totally unselfish! They’ve given us choices – their gain is having their children return unto them in the Celestial Kingdom – which gain is also those who attain this glory with their families – thus unselfish.

We then need to choose which our motivation will be – selfishness or unselfishness! What type of leader will be for our loved ones and families – our friends and our neighbors – strangers which we meet – will we teach by example that which is re-teachable and what we’d want others in turn to become like – or will we be negligent and teach little of eternal worth? Will we be striving to improve our station – peer acceptance – or worldly recognition – or will be striving to elevate all those we meet to higher standards and love of one another?

Motivation is simple; it’s the motives for our actions! We need to clarify to ourselves what ours will be. Thus we need to read and ponder the Scriptures – prayerfully go unto the Father for further understanding and clarity of how each Scripture applies to them so that they can be of more value to others in building up the Kingdom of the Lord.

Having the Will to Do!

We must be found putting aside the worldly – taking on the armor of the Father and the Son – being malleable, teachable, reachable and otherwise having a contrite spirit and a broken heart – thus able to be employed in the Father’s garden and vineyard. Catching the Vision and Wisdom of those who’ve gone before – disciples, Apostles, Prophets and mostly those like you and I – ones who believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ in its fullness and of the Scriptures – all of the teachings of the Savior and the Prophets!

Understanding who we are – we’ll have the will to do the word of the Lord! One must differentiate oneself from the world – to put aside selfishness – to go forth in righteousness – to be found with will to do what we’re supposed to be about and not just what we’d like to be about.

The will to do is a commitment – better a covenant between us the Father through the Son! What exactly have we committed or covenanted to do? We’ve covenanted (will use this word here-on-out) to repent of our wrongdoings (and to attempt with all our hearts, minds and strength to do them no more; we’ve covenanted to be baptized by one having authority into His Church (and none other); we’ve covenant to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost from those having authority; we’ve covenanted to be found in obedience to all of the Commandments as found in all of the Scriptures revealed to the world in these latter-days; we’ve covenanted to be found in His service – willingly obedient in all things unto Him and His glory; we’ve covenanted to read, understand and heed the Scriptures; we’ve covenanted to share with all the truths which we’re allowed to discern with the world – starting with our families, loved ones, neighbors, friends and strangers; we’ve covenanted to proclaim out testimonies to all the world; we’ve covenanted to be found sustaining the Prophet on this Earth in these Latter-days and those called to preside in the Stakes, Wards, Branches of His Church; and we’ve covenanted to forgive and forget all others and to judge not others or their beliefs.

The list of the covenants which a child of God enters into with the Father through the Son are many – some that all are aware of and others which are individual. In each of these covenants we realize there are both a promise of blessings for obedience and an equal promise of penalties if we are not obedient! We understand that both the Father and we are equally responsible for their respective part of the covenants. One might remember the Scripture, Doctrine and Covenants 121:34-35 (one might read
Doctrine and Covenants 121:34-40);

34 Behold there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?

35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men.
Thus we can see the will to do is predicated upon our motivation to do things within our lives – we choose either selfishly or selflessly – but always the choice is ours to make.

Epilogue:

We started by talking about men/women who flounder in the world – seeking guidance – but relying on the worldly to provide this guidance and not upon the Father and the Son and their Prophets. Many proclaim on bumper stickers, wearing of religious medallions, or otherwise saying they’re saved because they believe in the Savior. While it’s true they’re saved – but this is because of the Atonement of the Savior where all men/women are saved – lest they commit murder (the shedding of innocent blood – or denying the Holy Ghost) – this does not mean they’ll have exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom with their families and loved ones. Many are willing to accept far less than this and refuse to believe literally in the Scriptures which teach this doctrine of eternal life with the Father and the Son.

The four elements of the ‘How To, Want To, Need To and the Will To Do’ that much is expected, especially where much is given or covenanted. However, as in all things in the Gospel of Jesus Christ – our agency and/or our motivations will help us determine which we’ll really follow – the Father and the Son or men/women of the world. As said long ago and far away – choose wisely – your eternal salvation depends on this singular decision!

In closing I’d like to bear my testimony of the truthfulness of all things as found in the Gospel of Jesus Christ! That He lives and because He lives we too can live and be found in the company of our Father with our families for all eternity! That in these latter-days that His Church is once more upon this Earth with a Prophet at its head – and Apostles with the Royal Priesthood restored by the hand of Peter, James and John! That this Prophet is Thomas S. Monson – chosen of the Lord! I know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true and restored Church spoken of in the Holy Scriptures and by all of the Prophets since the beginning of time until our day! May one and all know these things are true – I so testify in the name of Jesus Christ – my Lord and Savior – Charles J. Ingerson on this day – 3 September 2009 – amen!



“Gather Thee Within”

cji
9/3/09

Come hither and hear
seekers of truth’s wisdom
listen and know of a seer
preparing Father’s kingdom;

Restoration of all things
revelations and ordinances
eternal happiness brings
found only obedience’s;

None need to flounder alone
Father’s love sufficient to all
allowing His Son to Atone
saving each from the fall!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

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Sunday, August 30, 2009

“Endlessly Adrift”


“Endlessly Adrift”

cji
8/31/09

Accepting theories easy
peer pressure to assuage
disregarding facts or science
not needed or heeded now
endlessly adrift in the world
captured by the lights bright
embraced tightly now about
without foothold or strength
the rod of iron now to rust
wanting more of men/women
and less and less of truth!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Mitochondrial Eve
The nucleus of the human cell contains 99.5% of our DNA - half comes from mother and other half from father. Because shuffled together, difficult to tell which parent contributed which element.[38] Mitochondrial DNA is found outside the nucleus of the cell where there are hundreds of energy producing components called mitochondrial, each of which contain a circular strand of DNA contributed exclusively by the mother. Because it remains relatively unchanged it could be used to trace a person's lineage back for thousands of years. And perhaps even to the beginning of time. In 1987 compared my DNA of 147 people from 5 of the world's geographic locations. Concluded all of the 147 people had the same female ancestor, known as the "Mitochondrial Eve."[38]This led to the conclusion that in the beginning there really was really one set of parents which would mean either that Mitochondrial Eve could be the Biblical Eve, or that all modern humans are descended from a very small population humans that existed at one time. Evolutionists were unprepared to deal with these ideas and proposed a farfetched explanation about Mitochondrial Eve: Her family somehow spread across the globe and replaced all the other archaic humans who just happened to have failed in their efforts to produce female offspring. That's pretty hard to believe.[38]Using what they call the "molecular clock," evolutionists tried to prove that Mitochondrial Eve lived far too long ago to be the Biblical eve. By rewinding that clock, scientists came up with an estimated rate of mutation and were thus were able to calculate the supposed age of Mitochondrial Eve. Based on this theory, they were surprised to discover that Mitochondrial Eve existed approximately 250,000 [ET*] years ago, as opposed to their supposed common ancestor who lived some 3 ½ million [ET*] years ago. The molecular clock threw the evolutionary clock out the window.[38]However laboratory discoveries in 1998 indicated that mutations in Mitochondrial DNA occur 20 times faster than the original estimate, indicating that Mitochondrial Eve lived between 6000 and 6500 years ago. This is consistent with the Biblical time line.[38]

Again I’ve read both of Darwin’s books – and in both he leaves open his theories – never confirming them as facts. Indeed he further says he could never go beyond finding ‘two’ of everything when going as far back as he could. Darwin was a very interesting study – in that his father was a minister (smile) and he went to several ‘religious’ schools to the point he was fed up with them and their multiple confusions (similar to Einstein).

The easy way is most frequently the way most go – a lot less work. And one must remember that Darwin’s work justified the geo-political abuse of the various lower classes. Spencer who was a peer of Darwin came up with the phase, “Survival of the fittest” shortly after the publication of “Origin of Species.” Both works were easily accepted into the England and the European World as they justified the continuation of ‘almost slave labor’ in the factories and the mines – while the leisure class worked not at all.

Sadly in science as in politics – what’s convenient seems to carry the day – and if new facts don’t meet the current theory – regardless of its supports – the theory will continue to be treated as truth or fact even if never proved. This is the case in evolution as taught in our schools today – yes there is evolution – but a human is a human and a monkey is still a monkey. What monkey would want to stay as a monkey if it could be a human (maybe not a good question when one looks at the trash in our government on our streets today).

Yet we’ve to keep an open mind – regardless of the rhetoric of those pushing their individual points of view. Those who disregard new science – denying evidence which has passed the test of good research – to hang tough to their old theories – then science like all else is simply rhetorical self-serving as are those who feed off of the population they can please with their findings.

If DNA is a science – and new findings show differences in theories – should it be thrown out?

Now remember I’m involved with several archeological groups and I could take you to settlements 30,000 years old – and fire spots 15,000 years old – but all current scientific evidence shows that these people and their posterity must’ve been eliminated. We know in current history multiple times when whole groups of cultural groups were eliminated ‘in toto’ either due to war – famine – plague and other situations.

What’s interesting – is that actual evidence and theory don’t agree – thus does one throw out the evidence or the theory? chuck


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Saturday, August 29, 2009

“Maybe We’re Not a Christian Nation” cji 8/29/09


“Maybe We’re Not a Christian Nation” cji 8/29/09


When we see the reverence given to two who’ve recently passed – garnering the praise of the minions who followed them (and those who’ve agenda’s to sell or force upon others) – it teaches us two things about the world or nation we live in currently: 1. That the worldly overrides what’s good, moral, of value or virtue and family importance; and 2. People who flaunt all of #1 can and will become ‘heroes’ to nations who decide to abdicate their own freedoms to that of public opinion no matter how twisted, slanted, evil or otherwise unrighteous!

Many like them have left none of the Ten Commandments (not suggestions) unbroken – by their own admission and those of friends many in our society take great pride in bragging of lewd conduct and transgressions of the laws without punishments. The most recent to die did it with arrogance and impunity and took many along with him either actively or passively when supporting him or his actions. It appeared that none of those who live in the Great State of MA – would confront him – they just kept reelecting him; none in the houses of Congress or the Senate (both bastions of corruptness) would ever dare to censor him. Instead they embraced him as a wayward child – such as Jack the Ripper and/or Son of Sam.

The media harbored him as their poster child of all that’s good in America (providing all of the protection of the press) – while at the same time demeaning the Veteran’s – Married Couples – Families and those who actually did set a good example of righteousness. He was to them the Clint Eastwood of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly – while all three were equally bad – because of labeling – they all came across as likable fellows.

There should be ‘total silence’ from all of the US (and not just the Pope) – he was and is a disgrace to America – yet this is what those of various faiths around the world see as the elite or the best of America! Then we wonder why all the world agrees with BO that this is not a Christian Nation – for if he’s the poster child and or the other others who are like him – we certainly cannot be considered a Christian Nation.

A Christian Nation – represents the goodness of virtue; the plainness of truth; the understanding and usage in their daily lives of the two Great Commandments; and most of all – a firm belief in God the Father and his only begotten Son – Jesus Christ!

One can go nowhere in America and not hear the name of the Lord taken in vain! The profanity of the streets, the TV, the Movies and one would guess now commonplace in literature as required reading in our schools is acceptable. Prayers are no longer in the schools – instead we find classes on birth control and contraceptives for those who need them in direct violation of the Ten Commandments – (Note: Adultery by its meaning was any sexual behavior outside of the marriage of a Man and a Woman – legally performed by one having authority to perform the marriage.)

It would be my guess most have never read the Old Testament – and many have never read the New Testament ‘in toto’ – and further that if having read either have failed to ponder and seek by prayer to understand what’s taught in both so there are no mysteries (see Alma 12:10-11) found therein (actually they’re one in the same – only divided by man so that some churches claim one – others claim the other – and some only claim part – and for the most have kept only about 10% of the writings of the Prophets discarding the majority of the 3000+ books of the scriptures). Then to further add to the insult of Christianity or Religious Beliefs most have mixed in the Greek Philosophy and the Philosophy of Man – to give them a reading different from what they used to say.

Most schools of religion only teach about 5% of what’s left and found in the Bible, and this they make confusing and twisted. This by the way is not a condemnation of any church or belief – but simply fact of what’s being taught today in what’s considered to be by most a Christian Nations which literally are supposed to believe that Jesus is the Christ. One would guess that if brain surgeons only used 5% of the material available for being a brain surgeon – we’d have a difficult time exhibiting much confidence in their performing surgery on either us or a loved one. Yet where eternal salvation and the right to claim to be a Christian Nation is concerned – we’re willing to accept only 5% of what’s available and feel we know it all.

Thus with the continued deification of such as this ‘dirtball’ and others – and the continued vilifications of those who’ve both worth and value in righteousness – to claim anything other than what BO has told the world is to have us as liars. We must remember all that the rest of the world sees of the US is what’s in the movies, on TV – on the Internet or in their media! Killings, Sexual violence and perversions and extremes in behaviors or lifestyles. It’s doubtful they (the rest of the world) know anything at all about the average American! Remember most of some parts of the world are totally illiterate or living in dictatorships with extreme censorship. Most will never travel outside of their immediate environment (even within the US is this still true in many cases). As those in this nation have prejudices real or imagined – the rest of the world does also. I.E. if they see it, hear it then it must be true and real. A quick example – is the exploitation of religion and beliefs – playing on the stereo types and not the truth – yet never can one hear the word polygamy without the media making sure they think of only one church – knowing what they’re doing is both untruthful and deliberately wrong!

So my friends – we’ve a very difficult situation in America – our nation – none believe the truth – but all are willing to accept the rhetoric of popularity – then our Island is getting smaller and smaller - chuck

“Belief of a Nation”

cji
8/29/09

Harboring a sure knowledge
understanding without bounds
literally believing the truth
discarding rhetorical philosophy
then one can discern a belief
finding the sure footing of truth
unblemished and unadulterated
clean, pure and full of virtue
thus going forth on one’s way
proclaiming this is who we are
and the belief of our nation!


Copyright © 2009 – cji

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Thursday, July 30, 2009

"Do We Want to Know?" (Part 2)


“Chuck: Those that would entertain horns and tails are being quite silly at best and those that do not see problems in their own Church may indeed be visually and hearing impaired. That goes for everything. Regardless of what platform a person speaks from they should be careful not to elevate themselves as being perfect or 100% accurate for in that lays the problems that will curtail sharing, learning and accepting one another in a true spiritual positive environment. A friend!”

My Response:
When one considers the above one must understand the definition of the word or meaning of being ‘perfect!’ The individual is never perfected (if so they're history to mortality) - however, the three main purposes of the true Church should be; 1) Perfecting of the Saints (members) 2) Missionary Work (to help others know) and 3) Baptism for the dead (each individual member's extended family throughout history so they could can hear the Gospel).

If it's the Lord's Church (which it would have to be) it should be perfect in every way - however, being administered by those called and the laying of hands to confer 'keys' there will be found some with imperfections when not being a Prophet or Apostles. When a Prophet or Apostle is acting in the role of their office - they will never lead or do anything to lead anyone, anywhere at any time astray. In addition, they will be perfect in thought and clarity when declaring the Gospel of Jesus Christ – whether or not men/women are willing to believe or accept it as the perfect truth.

This is not judgmental - it's what the Savior and all of the Prophets have taught. When one ponders perfection – and goes to exclude either the Father or the Son or their appointed servants of having such a quality, they’re on very dangerous ground. Man/woman in all of their wisdom will only be made as fools to even try to compare their wisdom to that of the Father or Son or their servants.

There's one and only one reason I share - because I love everyone - (not their sins - smile) - enough that I want those who I know to know of Celestial Marriage - that the family can be eternal forever and ever. Marriage is not till death do us part - it's eternal - I've known this for almost 45+ years long before I knew that the Church had been restored and that I found it.

This is the second most important message I can share with those I love- for if I'm correct (and I'm pretty sure that I am) - I want none of my friends pointing or accusing me of not sharing this most important principle of which I've known for over 4 decades and lived for over 3 decades and didn't share it.

The first most important message is that the Church has been restored and thus the sealing keys are again on earth so that families can be eternal.

Most don't want to hear the Church has been restored - but all understand to some degree of their love of their families - spouses, children, etc. And most understand they're only a family until - death do us part! For there's no civil or ordained authority on this planet who can seal on earth - so it's sealed in heaven. Only a Prophet or Apostle with the keys - and to delegate these keys to worthy Priesthood holders have this authority and only can this be performed in The House of the Lord (a Temple).

Everyone should want to belong to the only true Church – and thus each Church on the earth today is basically claiming this truth – otherwise they’ve no authority or reason to be attending a church which in not the only true Church. Each Minister, Priest, Rabbi, Clergy, Caliph or any other who takes upon them to claim to be a spokesperson for the Father or the Son – must believe they’re in the only true Church. They must teach literally the Scriptures and to believe them literally – otherwise they’re found in contention with the Father and the Son who they claim to speak for literally.

So in reality how should a Prophet speak? Should he be wavering and unsure? Should he be shy about sharing the truth? What should he be teaching? Maybe the best answer to this can be found in the Scriptures – and see what they show as an example. For purposes of this review one must only look at the Savior! He taught and explained the Scriptures! He testified as to who he was and from where he was sent/called. He freely quoted the Prophets and specifically referenced Isaiah. He taught with authority – and in all of the Scriptures so did the Prophets and Apostles. They all taught with authority – firm and unwavering without concern as to whether men/women liked or did not like what they had to say!

The Prophet on the earth today would be such a man – and those who serve with him a Apostles would be also! I know such men – and they are indeed like the Savior!

C

“Do We Want to Know?”
(Part 2)

cji
7/31/09

Scattering feathers amid a storm
helter-skelter they fly about lost
unknown to man where they go
yet all known to the Father and Son
for they know and understand all
thus when calling those to them
Prophets, Apostles, Seers – all
this wisdom and truth is shared
man/woman unlike the feathers
are not randomly scattered about
but each is known to the Father
while many are found unknowing
of either the Father or the Son
while claiming such knowledge
for drinking at the wrong fountain
knowing neither life eternal
or of the Celestial Kingdom yonder
where families are to be forever!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Thursday, July 23, 2009

"What If ... and Do You Want to Know?"


If there’s no one church – then we can effectively ignore the Scriptures – however, if one church somewhere – someplace can meet all of the evidences presented in the Bible then their might’ve been a restoration and there might be only one church. Each of us should really want to answer this question – and not leave it to upbringing or culture or peer pressure. However, knowing many don’t want to answer this question and will accept what’s normal and non-upsetting – I’ll leave it to the readers where they’d like to go next. Here’s a good list of Scriptures and questions. Should you choose to seek out the answers don’t be surprised with what you find. Good luck – c/ork




Points of the True Church:
I have come across many lists of scriptures and points that are descriptive of the true church of Jesus Christ. For the most part they are very incomplete, but they are a good place to start.
This is probably the best known list:
Seventeen Evidences of the True Church
"Near the onset of World War II, five college students determined to search for the Lord's true church. One of the group compiled a list of seventeen characteristics and key doctrines of the church Christ established. He suggested that Christ's church today should include them all and that they should try to find such a church. The five friends began talking to priests and ministers, comparing the structure and doctrines of various churches with the list. None matched more than half of the requirements.
The five friends parted and it was years before they met again. Individually, they had found and joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, finding it to be the only church on earth that encompassed all the seventeen of the evidences of the true church of Christ."
Will recognize the Holy Trinity as separate Persons.a. will know the identity of God (Father), Jesus Christ (Son) and the Holy Ghost (Spirit).b. Jesus Christ will be recognized as Head of the Church.
Will accept the Holy Bible in its entirety.Will recognize that some parts of the record are missing.
Will contain the same offices.a. 12 Apostles mandatoryb. Prophets, Teachers, Elders, Evangelists, Bishops, Deacons, High Priests, Saints.
Offices will be "Called of God."a. College degree of license insufficientb. Royal Priesthoodc. Can be married
Will have an unpaid ministry.
Members will be workers in the ChurchWomen included in activities.
Baptism will be mandatory.a. Probably by immersion.b. Must be authorized.
Will believe in the Virgin Birth.
Will believe in literal resurrection.
Will honor Sunday as the Sabbath.
Will receive continuous revelation.
Will be payers of tithes.
Will partake of the Sacrament of the Lord.
Will believe in immortality and heaven and a hell.
Will have miraculous occurrences.
Will teach that Jesus Christ will come again.
Will be persecuted for beliefs.
From audio tape: Seventeen Evidences of the True Church by Floyd Weston, 1990 Covenant Communications
Another related list follows:
Seventeen points of the True Church
Christ organized the Church.Ephesians 4:11-14 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;"
The true Church must bear the name of Jesus Christ.Ephesians 5:23 "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."
The true Church must have a foundation of Apostles and Prophets.Ephesians 2:19-20 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];"
The true Church must have the same organization as Christ’s Church.Ephesians 4:11-14 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;"
The true Church must have divine authority.Hebrews 5:4-10 "And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as [was] Aaron. So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec."
The true Church must have no paid ministry.Isaiah 45:13 "I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts."1 Peter 5:2 "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight [thereof], not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;"
The true Church must baptize by immersion.Matthew 3:13-16 " Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbade him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"
The true Church must bestow the Gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands.Acts 8:14-17 " Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they [their] hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."
The true Church must practice divine healing.Mark 3:14-15 "And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach, And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:"James 5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:"
The true Church must teach that God and Jesus Christ are separate and district individuals.John 17:11 " And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are]."John 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God."
The true Church must teach that God and Jesus Christ have bodies of flesh and bone.Luke 24:36-39 " And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."Acts 1:9-11 "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
The officers must be called by God.Hebrews 5:4 "And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as [was] Aaron."Exodus 28:1 " AND take thou unto thee Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him, from among the children of Israel, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office, [even] Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar, Aaron's sons."Exodus 40:13-16 "And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. And thou shalt bring his sons, and clothe them with coats: And thou shalt anoint them, as thou didst anoint their father, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office: for their anointing shall surely be an everlasting priesthood throughout their generations. Thus did Moses: according to all that the LORD commanded him, so did he."
The true Church must claim revelation from God.Amos 3:7 "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
The true Church must be a missionary church.Matthew 28:19-20 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen."
The true Church must be a restored church.Acts 3:19-21 "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."
The true Church must practice baptism for the dead.1 Corinthians 15:29 "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"
By their fruits ye shall know them.Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
Why are these things important?Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."
The "seventeen points" is not information from the Church. Rather is was written years ago by a member and simply "caught on". Today many members make reference to it. However it could have been the 14 points of the true church or the 21 points of the true church.
Another longer, and more complete list follows:
Evidences of the True Church
This list is from a book called The Greatest Quest by Blaine and Brenton Yorgason (Deseret Book Company). This novel describes the search by five college students to find the one true Church of Jesus Christ. At the end of this book, the authors combine their research with the work of Henry Whiffen who also developed a list. Together these gave a total of 42 points. In this list each point has been documented with scriptural references.
The Godhead consists of three separate and distinct beings - God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost.
Genesis 1:26-27;3:22
Matthew 3:17; 28:19
Luke 3:22
Acts 7:55
1 John 5:7
God the Father, as well as his Son Jesus Christ, who is a resurrected personage, both have bodies of flesh and bone and spirit.
Genesis 32:30
Exodus 33:23
Luke 24:39, 41-43
John 20:17; 21:13-14
Acts 7:55-56
1 John 3:2
Jesus is the Christ, the literal Son of God, the Messiah, and the only perfect person upon the earth - and not simply a great teacher.
Luke 9:35
John 17:4-5
Hebrews 1:6-7
Jesus Christ , as revealed in the New Testament, is Jehovah, God of the Old Testament.
Exodus 3:14
John 8:58
Isaiah 43:11
Hosea 13:4
The Holy Ghost is a distinct personage of spirit and is the third member of the Godhead.
Matthew 3:15-18
John 14:26; 16:13-14; 20:21-22
Ephesians 1:17
The Holy Bible is the word of the Lord insofar as it is translated correctly. It is the record of the Jews and will be joined with another record in the last days to relate God's word to his people. This second record will come from a descendant of Joseph.
Ezekiel 37:15-17
Isaiah 29:18
Revelation 20:12-14
Jesus Christ is recognized as the head of his Church, with other officers named, beginning with a foundation of apostles and prophets, and including teachers, saints, elders, evangelists, bishops, deacons, priests and high priests.
John 15:16
Mark 3:14-15
Ephesians 2:19-20; 4:11-14
Officers in Christ's church will be "called of God." They will receive their authority through the "laying of hands." One cannot call himself to the ministry,a. College degree or license insufficient.b. Royal priesthood will be known as such.c. Bishops and leaders are to marry and to have children.
Acts 19:25
Hebrews 5:4, 10
Timothy 3:2; 4:2-3
1 Peter 2:9
Members of Christ's church will be "workers," and will be called "saints." In addition, women will be included in activities and leadership.
Proverbs 12:4
Romans 1:7
Ephesians 4:12
1 Corinthians 11:7
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
There will exist within the church separate entities for each of the groups of members. Adult and youth organizations will exist. This point stands to reason, if Christ is concerned with helping each individual from that person's own level of understanding.
Ephesians 4:11-14
Christ's church will believe in the "virgin birth" of Jesus Christ but will not believe in the "immaculate conception" of Mary.
Isaiah 7:14
Matthew 1:19-20, 23
Luke 1:26-31, 42
Christ's church will believe in immortality or eternal life, and in a heaven and hell. After the resurrection, we will be assigned to different places according to the judgement. The first resurrection will be for the righteous and will commence 1,000 years before the second resurrection.
John 3:16-17; 5:28-29; 14:2
1 Corinthians 15:20-22; 40-42
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
The Savior's church will honor Sunday as the Sabbath, with the understanding that the resurrection transpired Sunday morning, the first day of the week - and thus replaced Saturday as the Sabbath.
Hosea 2:11
Matthew 28:1
John 5:18
Acts 20:7
1 Corinthians 16:2
Officers as well as members of Christ's church will receive continuous revelation from God.
Amos 3:7
Matthew 16:13. 16-19
Ephesians 1:17
Members of the Lord's church will be payers of tithes and offerings.
Malachi 3:8, 11
Luke 11:42 Hebrews 7:4-5
Members of the church will regularly partake of the Lord's supper. This sacrament represents the flesh and blood of Christ and is partaken of in remembrance of him.
Matthew 26:26-28
Acts 20:7
1 Corinthians 16:1-2
Members of the Lord's church will experience miracles, such as visions, tongues and prophesies. In addition, the church will practice divine healing. When members of the church are sick, elders of the church will anoint them with oil and heal them.
Matthew 9:18
Mark 6: 5; 16:17-18
Acts 5:12, 16
James 5:14-15
Church leaders will teach that the resurrected Jesus Christ will come again to the earth in the last days. This "second coming" will be greatly anticipated.
Job 19:25-26
Matthew 24:30
Acts 1:11; 3:19-21
Members of the Lord's church will be persecuted for their beliefs.
Matthew 5:10-12; 24:9
Luke 6:22-23
Acts 8:1-3; 28:22
Hebrews 11:36-38
The church as a whole, as well as its members, will be recognized for their "fruits" - as well as the prophets who lead them. The church will esteem honesty, virtue, and wholesome activity.
Proverbs 15:4
Luke 6:43-44
2 Corinthians 9:10
Philippians 4:17
Hebrews 13:18
The church must provide salvation for all of God's children, not just those who receive the gospel while living on the earth. It will practice baptism for the dead.
Mark 16:16
John 3:1-8
1 Corinthians 15:29
The church will build temples similar to the one Solomon built, which was destroyed and built again at the time of Christ. These temples will have unique purposes, including baptism and other ordinances. Temples will also be holy places, contain the Holy of Hollies, and be used by members as places of worship.
Isaiah 2:3
Malachi 3:1; 3:7
Christ's original church was organized by him and named after him, and his church today will also be named after him.
Acts 4:10-12
Ephesians 1:22; 4:11-14; 5:23-24
Specific authority to function in the administration of the church is called "priesthood." It is obtained through ordination by one having the power to so ordain.
1 Samuel 13:9-14
Mark 6:7
John 7:16; 20:21
Acts 19:2-5
Hebrews 5:4-6,(6?)8-20
A higher priesthood authority is required to bestow the Holy Ghost than to baptize.
Matthew 16:19
Mark 1:7-8
Acts 8:15-18; 19:2-6
The church that Christ originally organized did not baptize infants since the prerequisite for baptism had (1) a capacity for repentance of past personal sins, and (2) a personal belief in the divinity and teachings of Christ.
Mark 10:14-15; 16:16
Acts 2:38; 8:12
The church is to send out missionaries (in twos), to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Mark 6:7
Luke 10:1
The church will have a welfare system to provide for the poor and the needy within the church. Members are to provide for themselves and their family first, and then receive help from the church
Deuteronomy 15:11
Psalm 9:18
Isaiah 14:30
Mark 10:21
Luke 18:22
Romans 15:26
The church will have a law of health. Alcoholic beverages will not be used by members of the church.
Ephesians 5:18
1 Corinthians 5:11; 6:9-10
The church will be one that is restored to the earth. Christ's original church experienced a great apostasy or falling away, but his church will be returned or restored again in the last days.
Jeremiah 31:31-34
Acts 3:19-21
2 Thessalonians 2:1-13
Revelation 14:6-7
Christ's church will believe in being saved by the grace of Christ through exercising faith in him. In other words, it will teach that when we repent of our sins and forsake them, the atonement of Christ will cleanse us of our sins.
Matthew 7:21-29
Mark 16:15-16
Luke 6:46-49
1 Timothy 4:10
James 1:22-25; 2:14-26
The church will preach only the true gospel of Christ, with no variations. It will neither add to the meaning of Christ's teachings nor take away from them - even though current revelation will provide insight into them.
Matthew 5:19
Galatians 1:6-9
Ephesians 4:5
Hebrews 13:8-9
Christ's church will espouse a pre-earth life, or a preexistence, such as that taught by the Orthodox Jews. Included in this teaching will be the doctrine of foreordination and not predestination. God the Father will be recognized as having created the individual spirits of all people.
Genesis 1:26-31
Job 38:4-7
Ecclesiastes 12:7
John 17:5
Ephesians 1:4-5
Hebrews 12:9
The church will believe in the "original sin" of Adam. Nevertheless, it will teach that Christ atoned for Adam's sin and that we will be punished for our own sins, as Adams sin has already been atoned for.
John 1:29
Acts 24:14-15
Romans 5:6-19
1 Corinthians 15:21-23
Christ's church will teach that the gathering of Israel, in the last days, will be literal.
Isaiah 5:26-30; 11:12-13; 35
Jeremiah 3:14-18; 31:10
Members of the true church will respect the beliefs of others.
Galatians 5:22-26; 6:1-2
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
The church will be subject to the laws of the land, regardless of the type of government in power in that land - thus rendering unto Caesar that which is his, and to God that which is his.
Matthew 22:21
Mark 12:17
Luke 20:25
It should be recognized that while perfection is to be sought by each member of Christ's church, the members will have human failings and will make mistakes, and that they will thus need to grow and learn - line upon line, precept upon precept.
Isaiah 28:10
Ephesians 4:11-14; 28,32
After repentance, baptism by immersion is essential, as is receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. A person performing these ordinances of baptism and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost must be duly authorized to perform such ordinances.
Matthew 3:13-15
John 3:5
Acts 2:38,41; 22:16
Romans 6:5-6
The Savior's church will have an unpaid ministry. This unpaid ministry will be called "by revelation," even as the apostles called new members to their quorum following the resurrection of Christ.
Amos 3:7
Micah 3:11
John 10:13
Acts 1:22-26
1 Corinthians 9:18
1 Peter 5:2
Satan is a real spirit being and not a fragment of people's imagination.
Job 1:6
Matthew 4:10
Mark 1:13; 8:33
Luke 13:16; 22:3, 31
John 13:27
Acts 26:18
The Holy Ghost will bear witness to the truthfulness of the Savior's plan, when it is presented. This is the one sure way of knowing which, if any, of the churches belongs to the Savior.
John 16:13-14
1 Corinthians 12:4-12
Galatians 5:22-26
Ephesians 1:17


“What If … and
Do We Want to Know?”

cji
7/24/09

What if there’s a single truth
magnifying above all else
teaching and discerning all
presenting a single plan
salvation and eternal life
following literally scriptures
having the single authority
Apostles and Prophets too
do we want to know of this
can we prepare for the enmity
which the world puts forth
sacrificing all for this truth
and then again maybe not
for eternal life can be ours
by answering a lone what if?


Copyright © 2009 – cji

Wednesday, July 22, 2009

"Momentum" (short essay)


“Momentum”

cji
7/23/09

Keeping going always
never stopping in flight
having goals to seek
righteous and eternal
understanding delays
with many to continue
thus to never stop
slowing time to time
keeping going always!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

When one thinks of continuous motion – i.e. momentum, there’s the hesitation to consider burn-out or being on a plateau of some kind. Neither is the case – if one has hundreds or thousands of goals written in their life’s book to work on striving always towards the Celestial Kingdom with our Father in Heaven – with our families (all of them). One of the thoughts which always comes to my mind when it appears I’ve hit a wall of sorts – is what is my line of self-imposed limitation in this area of my life? What’s blocking me from going forward to finding the solution to my stalled condition.

Smile – one has to understand we don’t always have to be inside of ourselves – it’s okay to step outside and look over the who we’ve become or are attempting to become. Gathering this alternative perspective allows us to see where the flat tire or other problem is to be found. Then we pick up and make course corrections – we’ve got our goals – in all six areas of our life: Physical; Mental; Social; Family; Moral/Ethical; Financial; and Educational or Self-Improvement. We’ve both tangible and intangible goals – written and specific – with where we are and where we’d like to be and with obstacles and roadblocks, solutions, time lines, photos (mental or actual) in all of the areas. Thus we can put one down – pick another up – be working on multiple ones at the same time (always) – keeping track of where we are within each.

We must understand we’re of a royal birth – we are the children ‘literally’ of Heavenly Father and he wants us to become like him!! He’s given us all of the tools we need to have a full head of speed in working towards the Celestial Kingdom and a home-coming! We of course need to do the work – and make the choices – understanding the basic principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

One extremely important understanding is when we hit a wall – it’s time to think if we’ve only been thinking of ourselves – and if so get ourselves into the service of others! Many can find depression, apathy, loss of purpose when leading a self-centered life – and therefore not living within the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ! When setting and listing our goals – prioritizing them – ranking them by ease of accomplishment and degree of importance we’re always to understand the accomplishment of these goals is to allow us to be in the service of our fellow man/woman – children or in the service of our Heavenly Father. Too many strive for individual goals and you’ll accomplish these – however, are you becoming a better person capable of being anxiously engaged in Father’s vineyard or gardens?

Over the decades of my life I’ve accomplished thousands of goals – too many to even remember – however, those which I remember best are those which were accomplished and then no longer important. Why do I remember these? First, because I learned these goals while decent goals were not in what I needed to be doing in the vineyard or garden. One of them was I became an ‘A’ tennis player and then due to back and shoulder problems never was able to sustain this level of play. Another was to become an E-8 (Master Sgt.) in the Army – I made it while in the hospital at Walter Reed having my 2nd Open-heart by-pass graft surgery – and thus my military career was over. Heavenly Father allowed me to reach these goals and then said, “Now we’ve more important things to be doing!” Father has a great sense of humor – he still let’s me play (at) golf.

Thus to enable me to keep in continuous motion (or to maintain my momentum) I listen to the Spirit (or try to) and work on the goals which are eternal and of benefit to my family and others. Part of this is in continuous study – questioning and learning all that I can – seeking more and more – to understand the things eternal – so that in some way I can share them with others and my eternal love of the Savior. I listen to others who are teachers – mentors – Apostles – so that I can learn more of the Will of the Father.

Goals are essential to momentum – and secondly to grasp what’s eternal and what’s not! Finally back to this line of self-imposed limitations – it can be called the ‘laugh line’ where others laugh or ridicule us for thinking we can accomplish something which we’re striving to do. We hear the laughter and thus hesitate – fearing not so much failure but the laughter of others. The best way to succeed is to fail and learn from our mistakes and not to make them a second time. As an example if I’ve over a thousand goals and accomplish 25% of them – that’s completion of 250 goals a year! Another person has ten to one hundred goals and has the same success rate or even higher say 60% - they’ve accomplished between 6 and 60 goals. Both are good and admirable – but if we’re to become like Father – and guess he’s millions or billions of goals – we’ve a lot of work and room for growth and very little time to sit on the wayside and either feel apathy, depression or have a pity party.

Father has given us everything we need to return to Him and live in His presence with our family (eternal) – we just need to understand that this life is but a small moment in the eternal scheme of things – however, much of what we need to learn is here and now – and the easiest it’ll ever be to accomplish.

Hugs and love to all – who cares who laughs at you – when they do so to me – I figure I’m missing something – and one of those laughing might just have the answer – so I ask them, “What are you laughing at?” Listen to their answers – and you might find you’ve overlooked an obstacle – and therefore unlock the goal to accomplishment.

cji/ork

Sunday, July 5, 2009

“The King Follett Discourse”


Over the past several weeks – I’ve received some very interesting emails – mostly professing to be all about the ‘truth’ of what the Bible teaches. Of course each email was professing only their particular belief and sort’ve telling the other religions how wrong they might be in their beliefs of the truth. However, one thing in common with each of them was what they taught as the ‘truth’ of the Church that I belong to – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or the Mormons). During this same window I was able to share with many that I was a Mormon – and they were welcome to check that I had no ‘horns’ or ‘tail,’ etc. Some happily engaged in conversations – while others did all but run to get away (smile). Of those who stayed we had some very good discussion on exactly what a Mormon believes – and most were quite surprised as it wasn’t what they’d been taught or heard. Further many agreed with what I believed – this brought a great pause.
Now as to the one thing in common that these purveyors of ‘truth’ had full agreement on about ‘Mormons’ – 1) we were a cult and our leader was none other than Satan himself! Now one must remember from the time of the First Vision of Joseph Smith, Jr. as a 14 year old boy – ministers of his day have taught this – and cheered (in newspapers) when he was murdered. 2) That we don’t worship Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior; 3) That we don’t teach or believe in the Bible; 4) That anyone who joins The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is going to Hell! These were the teaching and continue to be the teachings for the last 180 years about my Church!
What follows below is the final discourse of Joseph Smith, Jr. (he was murdered while in Carthage Jail under the protection of the State Militia).
It’s been my experience most men/women shy away from real truth – as it means that they are now accountable and responsible for such information and can no longer make excuses or blame another for their actions or lack of them. It’s easier not to learn truth – but the rhetoric of men/women – either in the schools, fiction, the pulpits or the literature of the Greeks and others. The common password is, “Don’t talk about religion or politics!” We already know what the numbing down of the lack of conversation on politics has brought this nation to – and the Constitution of the Land – and now we also know that the same has occurred in religion and truths pertaining to Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ (his only begotten), their Prophets and Apostles, the Bible (Old and New Testaments) and any teachings of the same.
Thus reading the following will cause some interesting actions on the parts of many (really) and therefore I would suggest you prayerfully go forward – your friend and a brother – chuck ingerson

“The King Follett Discourse”
CHARACTER AND BEING OF GOD--CREATION--SALVATION OF THE DEAD--THE UNPARDONABLE SIN--RESURRECTION--BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT, ETC.
A Discourse, by President Joseph Smith, delivered at the Conference held near the Temple, in Nauvoo, April 6, 1844. Reported by W. Richards, W. Woodruff, T. Bullock, and W. Clayton
Beloved Saints,--I will call the attention of this congregation while I address you on the subject of the dead. The decease of our beloved brother, Elder King Follett, who was crushed in a well by the falling of a tub of rock, has more immediately led me to that subject. I have been requested to speak by his friends and relatives; but inasmuch as there are a great many in this congregation who live in this city, as well as elsewhere, who have lost friends, I feel disposed to speak on the subject in general, and offer you my ideas so far as I have ability and so far as I shall be inspired by the Holy Spirit to dwell on this subject.
I want your prayers and faith that I may have the instruction of Almighty God and the gift of the Holy Ghost, so that I may set forth things that are true and which can be easily comprehended by you, and that the testimony many carry conviction to your hearts and minds of the truth of what I shall say. Pray that the Lord may strengthen my lungs, stay the winds, and let the prayers of the Saints to heaven appear, that they may enter into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth; for the effectual prayers of the righteous avail much. There is strength here; and I verily believe that your prayers will be heard.
Before I enter fully into the investigation of the subject which is lying before me, I wish to pave the way and bring up the subject from the beginning, that you may understand it. I will make a few preliminaries, in order that you may understand the subject when I come to it. I do not calculate or intend to please your ears with superfluity of words, or oratory, or with much learning; but I calculate to edify you with the simple truths from heaven.
In the first place, I wish to go back to the beginning--to the morn of creation. There is the starting-point for us to look to, in order to understand and be fully acquainted with the mind, purposes, and decrees of the great Eloheim, who sits in yonder heavens as he did at the creation of this world. It is necessary for us to have an understanding of God himself in the beginning. If we start right, it is easy to go right all the time; but if we start wrong, we may go wrong, and it will be a hard matter to get right.
There are but a very few beings in the world who understand rightly the character of God. The great majority of mankind do not comprehend anything, either that which is past or that which is to come, as respects their relationship to God. They do not know, neither do they understand the nature of that relationship; and, consequently, they know but little above the brute beast, or more than to eat, drink, and sleep. This is all man knows about God or his existence, unless it is given by the inspiration of the almighty.
If a man learns nothing more than to eat, drink, and sleep, and does not comprehend any of the designs of God, the beast comprehends the same thing. It eats, drinks, sleeps, and knows nothing more about God: yet it knows as much as we, unless we are able to comprehend by the inspiration of Almighty God. If men do not comprehend the character of God they do not comprehend themselves. I want to go back to the beginning, and so lift your minds into a more lofty sphere and a more exalted understanding than what the human mind generally aspires to.
I want to ask this congregation--every man, women, and child, to answer the question in their own heart, what kind of a being God is? Ask yourselves; turn your thoughts into your hearts, and say if any of you have seen, heard, or communed with him. This is a question that may occupy your attention for a long time. I again repeat the question--What kind of a being is God? Does any man or woman know? Have any of you seen him, heard him, or communed with him? Here is the question that will peradventure from this time henceforth occupy your attention. The Scriptures inform us that "This is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent."
If any man does not know God, and inquires what kind of a being he is,--if he will search diligently his own heart--if the declarations of Jesus and the Apostles be true--he will realize that he has not eternal life; for there can be eternal life on no other principle.
My first object is to find out the character of the only wise and true God, and what kind of a being he is; and if I am so fortunate as to be the man to comprehend God, and explain or convey the principles to your hearts, so that the Spirit seals them upon you, then let every man and woman henceforth sit in silence, put their hands on their mouths, and never lift their hands or voices or say anything against the man of God or the servants of God again. But if I fail to do it, it becomes my duty to renounce all further pretensions to revelations, inspirations, or to be a Prophet; and I should be like the rest of the world--a false teacher, be hailed as a friend, and no man would seek my life. But if all religious teachers were honest enough to renounce their pretensions to godliness, when their ignorance of the knowledge of God is made manifest, they will all be as badly off as I am, at any rate; and you might just as well take the lives of other false teachers as that of mine, if I am false. If any man is authorized to take away my life because he thinks and says I am a false teacher, then, upon the same principle, we should be justified in taking away the life of every false teacher; and where would be the end of blood? and who would not be the sufferer?
But meddle not with any man for his religion; and all governments ought to permit every man to enjoy his religion unmolested. No man is authorized to take away life in consequence of difference of religion, which all laws and governments ought to tolerate and protect, right or wrong. Every man has a natural and, in our country, a constitutional right to be a false prophet as well as a true prophet. If I show, verily, that I have the truth of God, and show that ninety-nine out of every hundred professing religious ministers are false teachers, having no authority, while they pretend to hold the keys of God's kingdom on earth, and was to kill them because they are false teachers, it would deluge the whole world with blood.
I will prove that the world is wrong, by showing what God is. I am going to inquire after God; for I want you all to know him and to be familiar with him; and if I can bring you to a knowledge of him, all persecutions against me ought to cease. You will then know that I am his servant; for I speak as one having authority.
I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man.
God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. If the veil was rent to-day, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,--I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form--like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image, and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked, and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another.
In order to understand the subject of the dead, for the consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the vail, so that you may see.
These are incomprehensible ideas to some; but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible. I wish I was in a suitable place to tell it, and that I had the trump of an archangel, so that I could tell the story in such a manner that persecution would cease for ever. What did Jesus say? (Mark it, Elder Rigdon.) The Scriptures inform us that Jesus said, "As the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power"--to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious--in a manner, to lay down his body and take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down my life, as my Father did, and take it up again. Do you believe it? If you do not believe it, you do not believe the Bible. The Scriptures say it, and I defy all the learning and wisdom and all the combined powers of earth and hell together to refute it.
Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you,--namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one,--from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And I want you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming his name, is not trifling with you or me.
These are the first principles of consolation. How consoling to the mourners, when they are called to part with a husband, wife, father, mother, child, or dear relative, to know that, although the earthly tabernacle is laid down and dissolved, they shall rise again, to dwell in everlasting burnings in immortal glory, not to sorrow, suffer, or die any more; but they shall be heirs of God and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ. What is it? To inherit the same power, the same glory, and the same exaltation, until you arrive at the station of a God and ascend the throne of eternal power, the same as those who have gone before. What did Jesus do? Why, I do the things I saw my Father do when worlds come rolling into existence. My Father worked out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my Father, so that he may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the track of his Father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all his children. It is plain beyond disputation; and you thus learn some of the first principles of the Gospel, about which so much hath been said.
When you climb a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the Gospel: you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the vail before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world: it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave. I suppose I am not allowed to go into an investigation of anything that is not contained in the Bible. If I did, I think there are so many over-wise men here, that they would cry "treason" and put me to death. So I will go to the old Bible and turn commentator to-day.
I shall comment on the very first Hebrew word in the Bible. I will make a comment on the very first sentence of the history of creation in the Bible--Berosheit. I want to analyze the word. Baith--in, by, through, and everything else. Rosh--the head. Sheit--grammatical termination. When the inspired man wrote it, he did not put the Baith there. An old Jew, without any authority, added the word. He thought it too bad to begin to talk about the head! It read first, "The head one of the Gods brought forth the Gods." That is the true meaning of the words. Baurau signified to bring forth. If you do not believe it, you do not believe the learned man of God. Learned men can teach you no more than what I have told you. Thus, the head God brought forth the Gods in the grand council.
I will transpose and simplify if in the English language. Oh, ye lawyers, ye doctors, and ye priests, who have persecuted me, I want to let you know that the Holy Ghost knows something as well as you do. The head God called together the Gods and sat in grand council to bring forth the world. The grand counsellors sat at the head in yonder heavens, and contemplated the creation of the worlds which were created at that time. When I say doctors and lawyers, I mean the doctors and lawyers of the Scriptures. I have done so hitherto without explanation, to let the lawyers flutter, and everybody laugh at them. Some learned doctor might take a notion to say the Scriptures say thus and so; and we must believe the Scriptures; they are not to be altered. But I am going to show you an error in them.
I have an old edition of the New Testament in the Hebrew, Latin, German, and Greek languages. I have been reading the German, and find it to be the most correct translation, and to correspond nearest to the revelations which God has given to me for the last fourteen years. It tells about Jachoboy, the son of Zebedee. It means Jacob. In the English New Testament it is translated James. Now, if Jacob had the keys, you might talk about James through all eternity, and never get the keys. In the 21st verse of the fourth chapter of Matthew, my old German edition gives the word Jacob instead of James.
The doctors (I mean doctors of law, not of physic,) say, "If you preach anything not according to the Bible, we will cry treason." How can we escape the damnation of hell, except God be with us and reveal to us? Men bind us with chains. The Latin says Jachabod, which means Jacob; the Hebrew says Jacob, the Creek says Jacob, and the German says Jacob. Here we have the testimony of four against one. I thank God I have got this old book; but I thank him more for the gift of the Holy Ghost. I have got the oldest book in the world; but I have got the oldest book in my heart, even the gift of the Holy Ghost. I have all the four Testaments. Come here, ye learned men, and read, if you can. I should not have introduced this testimony, were it not to back up the word Rosh--the head, the father of the Gods. I should not have brought it up, only to show that I am right.
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. When we begin to learn in this way, we begin to learn the only true God and what kind of a being we have got to worship. Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach him and how to ask so as to receive an answer.
When we understand the character of God and know how to come to him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to him, he is ready to come to us.
Now, I ask all who hear me, why the learned men who are preaching salvation say that God created the heavens and the earth out of nothing? The reason is, that they are unlearned in the things of God and have not the gift of the Holy Ghost. They account it blasphemy in any one to contradict their idea. If you tell them that God made the world out of something, they will call you a fool. But I am learned, and know more than all the world put together. The Holy Ghost does, anyhow; and he is within me, and comprehends more than all the world; and I will associate myself with him.
You ask the learned doctors why they say the world was made out of nothing; and they will answer, "Don't the Bible say he created the world?" And they infer, from the word create, that it must have been made out of nothing. Now, the word create came from the word baurau, which does not mean to create out of nothing; it means to organize--the same as a man would organize materials and build a ship. Hence we infer that God had materials to organize the world out of chaos--chaotic matter, which is element, and in which dwells all the glory. Element had an existence from the time He had. The pure principles of element are principles which can never be destroyed: they may be organized and re-organized, but not destroyed. They had no beginning, and can have no end.
I have another subject to dwell upon, which is calculated to exalt man. But it is impossible for me to say much on this subject. I shall, therefore, just touch upon it; for time will not permit me to say all. It is associated with the subject of the resurrection of the dead--namely, the soul, the mind of man, the immortal spirit. Where did it come from? All learned men and doctors of divinity say that God created it in the beginning. But it is not so. The very idea lessons man in my estimation. I do not believe the doctrine. I know better. Here it, all ye ends of the world; for God has told me so; and if you don't believe me, it will not make the truth without effect. I will make a man appear a fool before I get through, if he does not believe it. I am going to tell of things more noble.
We say that God himself is a self-existent being. Who told you so? It is correct enough; but how did it get into your heads? Who told you that man did not exist in like manner upon the same principles? Man does exist upon the same principles. God made a tabernacle and put a spirit into it, and it became a living soul. [Referred to the old Bible.] How does it read in the Hebrew? It does not say in the Hebrew that God created the spirit of man. It says, "God made man out of the earth, and put into him Adam's spirit, and so became a living body."
The mind or the intelligence which man possesses is co-equal with God himself. I know that my testimony is true; hence, when I talk to these mourners, what have they lost? Their relatives and friends are only separated from their bodies for a short season: their spirits which existed with God have left the tabernacle of clay only for a little moment, as it were; and they now exist in a place where they converse together the same as we do on the earth.
I am dwelling on the immortality of the spirit of man. Is it logical to say that the intelligence of spirits is immortal, and yet that it had a beginning? The intelligence of spirits had no beginning, neither will it have an end. That is good logic. That which has a beginning may have an end. There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they co-equal with our Father in heaven.
I want to reason more on the spirit of man; for I am dwelling on the body and spirit of man--on the subject of the dead. I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the mind of man--the immortal part, because it has no beginning. Suppose you cut it in two, then it has a beginning and an end; but join it again, and it continues one eternal round. So with the spirit of man. As the Lord liveth, if it had a beginning it will have an end. All the fools and learned and wise men from the beginning of creation, who say that the spirit of man had a beginning, prove that it must have an end; and if that doctrine is true, then the doctrine of annihilation would be true. But if I am right, I might with boldness proclaim from the housetops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself.
Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age, and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.
The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with himself, so that they might have one glory upon another, and all that knowledge, power, glory, and intelligence which is requisite in order to save them in the world of spirits.
This is good doctrine. It tastes good. I can taste the principles of eternal life, and so can you. They are given to me by the revelations of Jesus Christ; and I know that when I tell you these words of eternal life as they are given to me, you taste them, and I know you believe them. You say honey is sweet, and so do I. I can also taste the spirit of eternal life. I know it is good; and when I tell you of these things which were given me by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, you are bound to receive them as sweet, and I rejoice more and more.
I want to talk more of the relation of man to God. I will open your eyes in relation to your dead. All things whatsoever God of his infinite wisdom has seen fit and proper to reveal to us, while we are dwelling in mortality, in regard to our mortal bodies, are revealed to us in the abstract and independent of affinity of this mortal tabernacle; but are revealed to our spirits precisely as though we had no bodies at all; and those revelations which will save our spirits will save our bodies. God reveals them to us in view of no eternal dissolution of the body, or tabernacle. Hence the responsibility--the awful responsibility that rests upon us in relation to our dead; for all the spirits who have not obeyed the Gospel in the flesh must either obey it in the spirit or be damned. Solemn thought!--dreadful thought! Is there nothing to be done? No preparation--no salvation for our fathers and friends who have died without having had the opportunity to obey the decrees of the Son of Man? Would to God that I had forty days and nights in which to tell you all! I would let you know that I am not a "fallen prophet."
What promises are made in relation to the subject of the salvation of the dead? and what kind of characters are those who can be saved, although their bodies are mouldering and decaying in the grave? When his commandments teach us, it is in view of eternity; for we are looked upon by God as though we were in eternity. God dwells in eternity, and does not view things as we do.
The greatest responsibility in this world that God has laid upon us is to seek after our dead. The Apostle says, "They without us cannot be made perfect;" for it is necessary that the sealing power should be in our hands to seal our children and our dead for the fullness of the dispensation of times--a dispensation to meet the promises made by Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world for the salvation of man.
Now, I will speak of them. I will meet Paul half-way. I say to you, Paul, you cannot be perfect without us. It is necessary that those who are gone before and those who come after us should have salvation in common with us; and thus hath God made it obligatory upon man. Hence God said, "I will send Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord; and he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."
I have a declaration to make as to the provisions which God hath made to suit the conditions of man, made from before the foundation of the world. What has Jesus said? All sins, and all blasphemies, and every transgression, except one, that man can be guilty of, may be forgiven; and there is a salvation for all men, either in this world or the world to come, who have not committed the unpardonable sin, there being a provision either in this world or the world of spirits. Hence God hath made a provision that every spirit in the eternal world can be ferreted out and saved, unless he has committed that unpardonable sin which cannot be remitted to him either in this world or the world of spirits. God has wrought out a salvation for all men, unless they have committed a certain sin; and every man who has a friend in the eternal world can save him, unless he has committed the unpardonable sin. And so you can see how far you can be a saviour.
A man cannot commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body, and there is a way possible for escape. Knowledge saves a man; and in the world of spirits no man can be exalted but by knowledge. So long as a man will not give heed to the commandments, he must abide without salvation. If a man has knowledge, he can be saved; although, if he has been guilty of great sins, he will be punished for them. But when he consents to obey the Gospel, whether here or in the world of spirits, he is saved.
A man is his own tormentor and his own condemner. Hence the saying, They shall go into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. The torment of disappointment in the mind of man is as exquisite as a lake burning with fire and brimstone. I say, so is the torment of man.
I know the Scriptures and understand them. I said no man can commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body, nor in this life until he received the Holy Ghost; but they must do it in this world. Hence the salvation of Jesus Christ was wrought out for all men in order to triumph over the Devil; for if it did not catch him in one place, it would in another; for he stood up as a Saviour. All will suffer until they obey Christ himself.
The contention in heaven was--Jesus said there would be certain souls that would not be saved; and the Devil said he could save them all, and laid his plans before the grand council, who gave their vote in favour of Jesus Christ. So the Devil rose up in rebellion against God, and was cast down, with all who put up their heads for him.
All sins shall be forgiven except the sin against the Holy Ghost; for Jesus will save all except the sons of perdition. What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it; and from that time he begins to be an enemy. This is the case with many apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
When a man begins to be an enemy to this work, he hunts me; he seeks to kill me, and never ceases to thirst for my blood. He gets the spirit of the Devil--the same spirit that they had who crucified the Lord of Life,--the same spirit that sins against the Holy Ghost. You cannot save such persons; you cannot bring them to repentance: they make open war like the Devil, and awful is the consequence.
I advise all of you to be careful what you do, or you may by-and-by find out that you have been deceived. Stay yourselves; do not give way; don't make any hasty moves: you may be be saved. If a spirit of bitterness is in you, don't be in haste. You may say that man is a sinner. Well, if he repents, he shall be forgiven. Be cautious: await! When you find a spirit what wants bloodshed--murder, the same is not of God, but is of the Devil. Out of the abundance of the heart of man the mouth speaketh.
The best men bring forth the best works. The man who tells you words of life is the man who can save you. I warn you against all evil characters who sin against the Holy Ghost; for there is no redemption for them in this world nor in the world to come.
I could go back and trace every subject of interest concerning the relationship of man to God, if I had time. I can enter into the mysteries; I can enter largely into the eternal worlds; for Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." (John 14th chap., 2nd v.) Paul says, "There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead." (1st Cor. 15th chap., 41st v.) What have we to console us in relation to the dead? We have reason to have the greatest hope and consolations for our dead of any people on the earth; for we have seen them walk worthily in our midst, and seen them sink asleep in the arms of Jesus; and those who have died in the faith are now in the celestial kingdom of God. And hence is the glory of the sun.
You mourners have occasion to rejoice (speaking of the death of Elder King Follett); for your husband and father is gone to wait until the resurrection of the dead--until the perfection of the remainder; for at the resurrection your friend will rise in perfect felicity and go to celestial glory, while many must wait myriads of years before they can receive the like blessings; and your expectations and hopes are far above what man can conceive; for why has God revealed it to us?
I AM AUTHORIZED to say, by the authority of the Holy Ghost, that you have no occasion to fear; for he is gone to the home of the just. Don't mourn; don't weep. I know it by the testimony of the Holy Ghost that is within me; and you may wait for your friends to come forth to meet you in the morn of the celestial world.
Rejoice, O Israel! Your friends who have been murdered for the truth's sake in the persecution shall triumph gloriously in the celestial world, while their murderers shall welter for ages in torment, even until they shall have paid the uttermost farthing. I say this for the benefit of strangers.
I have a father, brothers, children, and friends who have gone to a world of spirits. They are only absent for a moment. They are in the spirit, and we shall soon meet again. The time will soon arrive when the trumpet shall sound. When we depart, we shall hail our mothers, fathers, friends, and all whom we love who have fallen asleep in Jesus. There will be no fear of mobs, persecutions, or malicious law-suits and arrests; but it will be an eternity of felicity.
A question may be asked--"Will mothers have their children in eternity?" Yes! yes! Mothers, you shall have your children; for they shall have eternal life; for their debt is paid. There is no damnation awaits them, for they are in the spirit. But as the child dies, so shall it rise from the dead, and be forever living in the learning of God. It will never grow: it will still be the child, in the same precise form as it appeared before it died out of its mother's arms, but possessing all the intelligence of a God. Children dwell in the mansions of glory and exercise power, but appear in the same form as when on earth. Eternity is full of thrones, upon which dwell thousands of children reigning on thrones of glory, with not one cubit added to their stature.
I will leave this subject here, and make a few remarks on the subject of baptism. The baptism of water, without the baptism of fire and the Holly Ghost attending it, is of no use: they are necessary and inseparably connected. An individual must be born of water and the spirit in order to get into the kingdom of God. In the German, the text bears me out the same as the revelations which I have given and taught for the last fourteen years on that subject. I have the testimony to put in their teeth. My testimony has been true all the time. You will find it in the declaration of John the Baptist. [Reads from the German.] John says, "I baptize you with water; but when Jesus comes, who has the power (or keys), he shall administer the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost." Great God! where is now all the sectarian world? And if this testimony is true, they are all damned as clearly as anathema can do it. I know the text is true. I call upon all you Germans who know that it is true to say aye. (Loud shouts of aye.)
Alexander Campbell, how are you going to save people with water alone? For John said his baptism was good for nothing without the baptism of Jesus Christ. "Therefore, not leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit." (Heb. 6th chap., 1st to 3rd v.)
There is one God, one Father, one Jesus, one hope of our calling, one baptism. All these three baptisms only make one. Many talk of baptism not being essential to salvation: but this kind of teaching would lay the foundation of their damnation. I have the truth, and am at the defiance of the world to contradict me if they can.
I have now preached a little Latin, a little Hebrew, Greek, and German; and I have fulfilled all. I am not so big a fool as many have taken me to be. The Germans know that I read the German correctly.
Hear it, all ye ends of the earth--all ye priests, all ye sinners, and all men. Repent! repent! Obey the Gospel. Turn to God; for your religion won't save you, and you will be damned. I do not say how long. There have been remarks made concerning all men being redeemed from hell; but I say that those who sin against the Holy Ghost cannot be forgiven in this world or in the world to come: they shall die the second death. Those who commit the unpardonable sin are doomed to Gnolom, to dwell in hell, worlds without end. As they concoct scenes of bloodshed in this world, so they shall rise to that resurrection which is as the lake of fire and brimstone. Some shall rise to the everlasting burning of God; for God dwells in everlasting burnings; and some shall rise to the damnation of their own filthiness, which is as exquisite a torment a the lake of fire and brimstone.
I have intended my remarks for all, both rich and poor, bond and free, great and small. I have no enmity against any man. I love you all; but I have some of your deeds. I am your best friend; and if persons miss their mark, it is their own fault. If I reprove a man and he hates me, he is a fool; for I love all men, especially these my brethren and sisters.
I rejoice in hearing the testimony of my aged friends. You don't know me: you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I could not have believed it myself. I never did harm any man since I was born into the world. My voice is always for peace.
I cannot lie down until all my work is finished. I never think any evil, nor do anything to the harm of my fellow-man. When I am called by the trump of the archangel and weighed in the balance, you will all know me then. I add no more. God bless you all. Amen.
“Truth”

cji
7/6/09

Undisguised and real
simple and quite plain
common sense to all
rejected by most all
those in pride and vain
unwanted to feel;

Truth is understanding
truth is clarity of thought
truth is what Father teaches
into our very souls it reaches
our freedoms thus brought
in obedience demanding;

Love eternal and forever
becoming as Father and Son
their combined will done
families never to sever!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Sunday, May 3, 2009

"Absolute Truth" (2007) and discussion


Sometimes it’s good to go back and look and see what if anything has changed – in doing so I came across this and thought to share - chuck



From: Chuck [mailto:ing123@tds.net] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:14 AM

Hi My Friend - one additional thought - the reading of the Scriptures (not some of the newer versions) have a familiar voice - one which we can recognize as that of the Savior (either from Him directly or through His Prophets) - which is why we've been admonished to read, ponder and study them - so we can recognize the true voice. Thus in the reading of the Book of Mormon and other Scriptures there's a familiar spirit and voice. It's found in much of the older records today (last two hundred years) being found either in the Middle East or elsewhere around the world. chuck


Hi My Friend - that's an excellent question. When I read the Bible at 11 years old - it left me with a lot of questions. So I started asking them - to anyone who seemed likely to know more than I did (smile). One of my best adult friends was a Catholic Priest (not like those in the papers today) - and once a week for five years we discussed my questions - he trying to provide answers and I going home and researching his answers. Thus we went back and forth till I was ready to run away from home again. He told me at that time if I ever found what I was seeking to tell him! The Next time I went to see him he was dead (having died while I was in the Far East - 63-64). At that time I still had not found anyone with the answers which made sense and were historically true. When I went to various churches I would be asked not to come back or otherwise told the same! Sometimes they just told my wife.

Finally I got to the point where I was convinced that the Church as spoken of in the Bible had not been yet Restored and therefore no church could answer my questions about the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They were questions based on prayer and common sense - I cold read what was there and know and understand what was being taught, practiced and delivered as religion was mostly manmade and without full Scripture supports and understandings. Basically what I found was whatever suited their needs (the churches) was what they taught ignoring truth and the teachings of the Prophets and the Savior most of all. What they taught didn't make much sense - it made the Savior to be a liar and changeable - and discredited the teachings of the Prophets into superstition and myths.

(Note: Just so you know I don't think I was a dummy or irreligious - I wanted to find the answers which should have been apparent from the readings of the Scriptures - but all I found was confusion - philosophy - and revision. Where the dots should connect and present understanding there was no connection.)

Now to your questions:
1. What would be your faith if Joseph Smith never existed?

This is difficult as he's the Prophet of this last dispensation of the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Savior and our Heavenly Father are unchanging - thus in order to restore the Gospel in its fullness (or for me to find the True Church (Their Church) - they would've called a Prophet on this earth! In my studies of all of the Reformers and many of the "Father's of Christianity" a Prophet was what they were all seeking and waiting for - someone who had the Divine Authority from the Savior to act in His name upon this Earth. Thus for me I'd still be looking if he hadn't been called and none else either. However 'my faith' would be undaunted - true and steadfast - and at opposites with the world then and now.

2. What if there was no Book of Mormon?

Multiple times in the Scriptures we find reference to other people who the Savior was going to visit and teach - we find references to the Book of Life from the time of Adam and Eve - we find reference a Stick for the House of Judah (what we know as the Bible today) and one for the House of Joseph (which I was looking for as a companion volume and second witness of the Lord Jesus Christ. James tells us when we receive the 'engrafted word' - thus that there would be more than one. Thus if there were no Book of Mormon - then the Bible would not have a second witnesses of its truthfulness and the men/women of this world would succeed in destroying it and its credibility. One of the problems I had in my questioning was there seemed to be gaps and omissions throughout the Bible - which occurred from those who translated and transmitted it to the world. Some of these omissions had to be deliberate and others errors by the scribes, etc. We know that the Rabbinical School organized in 70AD usurped the Priesthood and rewrote much of the Scriptures which the translations are made from today. This has been documented in the Dead Sea Scrolls and other findings since the late 1700's. In turn the Catholic Church revised liberally the Scriptures with philosophy and rhetoric to meet the needs of the more educated classes rather than the Christians still alive in the 4th Century. Since then man has done wonders with new translations, easier reading style and all kinds of changes and additions to the Scriptures which they repeatedly say cannot be changed or added to - interesting. Thus is there were no Book of Mormon (or other Scriptures) then I'd still be looking for what the Savior and the Prophets and Apostles taught that would be there.

3. If you only had the bible, would that be sufficient?

It was for the better part of 20 years - even though I was laughed at - ridiculed - asked not to return - and told I asked too many questions. It taught me about Jesus Christ - it taught me about the Father and that the Father and Son were two distinct personages of flesh and bone. It taught me that little children are without sin and have no need of Baptism - and only after the age of eight is this necessary by one having authority similar to John. It taught me that the Priesthood could only be held by those called and set apart by one having authority and this authority did not come from any school or group of men. It taught me about sacrifice, repentance, eternal marriage, the three degrees of glory - and that men did have heavenly visitors - who spoke to them as one man speaketh to another. It taught me about Satan and the War in Heaven and that Satan was upon this earth. It taught me most importantly to continue to ask questions and to pray and to do my homework. Was the Bible sufficient - yes and no - in that so many claimed the Bible and yet didn't believe it literally as I did and also in that I knew there had to be more because the Bible testified that there was more.

Hopefully this helps - smile - if Joseph Smith were here today - he would answer your questions and tell you that you're very important to Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ - equally as important as he might be or others. He would tell you he had a vision and spoke with the Father and the Son (not just once but with the Son on multiple occasions) and for this testimony he was hated, tarred and feathered, shot at - beaten - imprisoned and finally murdered - because he would not and could not deny this testimony. Paul was put to death for the same reason as were many of the Apostles (if not all). Not for anything wrong or illegal - but for testifying of seeing and having visions and being in the presence of the Savior. The world loves dead Prophets because it can change what they said or did - but hates a living Prophet because then they know they come under the condemnation of the Father and the Son for their guile and deceptions.

Not sure what you do in Intel - but think of it this way - have you ever handled material and known it wasn't complete? Or if you've children ever have one tell you part of the story and know there had to be more? When I was writing for a newspaper one of my assignments was an art show by an Assistant Professor of Art at a Junior College. He had five painting on display - I studied them for a long time and then wrote my column. When it was published the painter called me and asked me to come see him. When I entered his office - he confronted me with how could I know two paintings were missing and the content of those two paintings. My answer was simple, "I felt something wasn't right, that indeed after thought that there was something missing." It took me time to sort it out and figure what was missing and why. It's the same with the Scriptures - Father wants us to return to Him - He sacrificed His Only Begotten to make this possible - therefore why would he leave blanks - confusion - rhetoric - instead of the plain and simple truths of the Gospel? My answer was He wouldn't - therefore there had to be more - and I had to find it - put it in order and figure out why it was altered, omitted and denied. Simple stuff - we do it everyday with those we allow into our lives either in the workplace, home or socially.

Have a wonderful Sabbath Day - the Gospel of Jesus Christ is true - He's the same yesterday, today and forever - He calls and ordains Prophets the same way each time - usually an innocent youth unspotted from the world - we know of many of these in the Scriptures - and we know of them today with Joseph Smith, Jr. and all of those called after him - to Gordon B. Hinckley today - with the keys, authority and responsibility to act in the name of Jesus Christ - amen - and night my friend. Chuck

On Nov 29, 2007 9:45 PM, Chuck <ing123@tds.net> wrote:

Hi My Friend - thank you for sharing your testimony!! Why would the Savior have Apostles and Prophets in one dispensation and not another? Why would only those in and around Israel have the Scriptures and not His other children? Why would the Scriptures testify of other people not of this tribe or group who He had to go visit and teach? Why would the Scriptures testify of two sticks - one for the House of Judah and one for the House of Joseph? Why would a loving Heavenly Father or His Son our Lord and Savior give instruction to only some of their children and not all of their children? Why would we not have a Prophet of God on this earth at this time - if indeed it's the latter days prior to the Second Coming? The Book of Mormon testifies of Jesus Christ - it gives a second witness to the Scriptures found in the Old and New Testament which are under constant attacks from men - both within and without various organized religions. Nothing more or less - the Bible testifies of the Book of Mormon - as well.

Like you - after looking for almost 20 years and being thrown out or asked not to return of almost every major and minor form of religion (I asked too many questions - would go home and check their answers with the Bible - and history - and go back to ask again. Finally in hopelessness that the Church had not yet been restored in these latter-days - my bride (of 39 years) and I decided we just had to live good lives and be worthy in every sense to be found within the containment of Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice for us and others. It was at this time that I invited the Elders from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints into our home - as we'd just had our first child who successfully made the journey from the pre-existence (we'd had multiple miscarriages and told we'd never have any children who'd live - he was born with multiple congenital birth defects and still 34 years later is undergoing major surgeries). The only Church I'd visited in all those 20 years which I saw do anything with families as the keynote and center - was this Church. Thus knowing I was not prepared to be a good parent (was adopted and had no good examples to follow) - we invited them.

Much transpired - but suffice to say my prayers and questions were answered - which is why I've my testimony - as you it's important - and so important I try to share it when I'm able - Joseph Smith, Jr. is a Prophet - why is this important - because only a Prophet called as the Prophets of old - could restore the Savior's Church once more to this earth. Which is also what all of the Reformers stated in their writings that they were trying to get closer to the truth so they or others would recognize it when it was once more restored. Only a Prophet of God could've translated the Book of Mormon - especially when one thinks of the lack of technology and the lack of the plain and simple things of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. One should surely want to know whether this is true or not - for if it's true it's what all of the reformers sacrificed and died for to prepare the people to know. If it's not true then surely it's the greatest hoax which has circled the globe - and continues to open hearts and call men/women to repentance in the world.

It might be better to ask why wouldn't he be a Prophet? Did he lie - no because he shared with his worst enemy's those writings which he was translating - they said the translations were true. Did he ever deny his testimony - no - for this reason he was hated and despised by men(mostly from the pulpit and media) and was tarred and feathered - imprisoned - and finally murdered - for not denying his testimony (Paul and most of the early Apostles also suffered the same because of not denying their testimony of these self-same things). Further if he were a false Prophet then why has the Church continued to grow and give forth good fruits - shouldn't it have died and withered?

Men/women do not like living Prophet's - they love dead ones - why? Because they can say whatever they want and revise their words without risk of contradiction - with a living Prophet they can still do these things - but can be brought to task for so saying or doing. Do you believe the Lord loves us less than His other children - why then would they have a Prophet and not our generation if indeed His Church has been restored in these latter-days? Men/women will do all in their power and influence to dissuade others from believing that the Church has been restored - why? Because if the Church has indeed been restored in these latter-days then they are proved liars and deceivers to get gain from those they've led astray. If the Church has not been restored then none of the churches led by men have any authority to act in His name - thus they are forfeit either way - but in the second they can continue to beguile and get gain. chuck

On Nov 29, 2007 7:51 PM, Chuck <ing123@tds.net> wrote:

My Friend - It's my guess you've not read the Book of Mormon - it's also my guess outside of negative material you know little about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (to have said what you've said) - or possibly you've both well read and understood and have no desire to further find out their truths. We've many who've left the Church but have never been able to leave it alone. Not exactly Biblical - you err there as I was being generous - for anyone who knows and understands the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints would not say or believe what you wrote.

For one who believes the Bible literally (as we do) it seems more convenient to pull things out of context as well as to not appreciate much of the plain and precious truths of the various Scriptures were lost either deliberately or though transcription errors (which are legion). Further I don't know which Bible you refer to as the final word. My personal preference is the 1769 KJV - which was translation work of William Tynsdale - who was strangled and then burnt at the stake for doing so. In spite of those who reference Revelations - it seems to be the common sport of almost all religions of men - to constantly change meanings, revise and tell the world what the Savior meant to their obedient flocks who pay them to teach and preach.

One also forgets that there was no Bible – is made up of the same Scriptures which Jesus oft quoted to the Apostles and Disciples - which also did the many Prophets of the Old Testament times. The Bible as we know it today is a collection of some very few of the over 3500 recorded Scriptures – and is neither complete, whole and shut! – chuck

On Nov 29, 2007 5:17 PM, Chuck <ing123@tds.net> wrote:

We worship the Father and the Son - and certainly understand the Crucifixion. However again your choice - I've read the Bible and the Book of Mormon multiple times I testify to you that both are true and they testify of each other - that Jesus is the Christ - and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is His (Jesus Christ's) Church - Joseph Smith, Jr. was called to be a Prophet of His and was given the keys, authority and responsibility in these latter-days. In the name of Jesus Christ - amen - c

Now as you what you've said below - again you don't know or understand what we believe or you would not have said what you have - but that's okay - we believe you've a right to believe what you want - and we've the same right. Surely your idea of believing in Joseph Smith - would be no different than believing Abraham, Moses, Joseph (of Egypt), Peter, James and John - were and are still Prophets of God. We neither worship him nor does he or any of the others take the place of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - but we do respect and hold each of them in high esteem and appreciate their worthiness to serve the Father and the Son upon this earth so that we might come better to know them and their Gospel.

Certainly the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow - and thus to believe he's a respecter of persons or ignores his children would be to under estimate who he is and who sent him. Sadly by saying what you've said - either you do or you are taking someone else's need to be paid and publish at the risk of your eternal salvation. You indicate those who came before Joseph Smith, Jr. and their well being - who else has done their earthly work for them? Who else seeks to know and then baptize them? Who else has the authority to act in their behalf as was (in the Old Testament, New Testament) done in all of the prior dispensations of the Gospel upon the Earth since the beginning of time as measured upon this earth?

Good luck my friend - and understand - I've prayed, done my homework, and found understanding in the Gospel of Jesus Christ - that he has restored His Church in these latter-days - with Prophets, Seers, Apostles and all of the order and organization as found in the meridian of time and before as was testified by His Apostles in the Old and New Testaments and the Book of Mormon. chuck

This is the original sending:
Hi All - this is something I wish to share with all on my email lists. Doing this I know some will consider this as being out-of-place or even as Spam - which it's not. It's the most valuable truth I can share and will lead to eternal life. As many know I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons). This conversion happened when I was 29 - and what I'd looked for since the age of 11. When one is provided a light it's always in addition to what light they already have. Some will say they need no more light - they've enough - and this is fine - but I would be remiss in not sharing this with you. I'd rather catch your displeasure now than if we meet on the other side of the veil and had not shared this with you. It's shared in the spirit of love and sharing of light. The writer is a Prophet of God - Spencer W. Kimball. c/ork
Absolute Truth
SPENCER W. KIMBALL
http://speeches.byu.edu/htmlfiles/Kimball_Spencer_09_1977.html
Spencer W. Kimball was President of The Church ofJesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when this devotional addresswas given at Brigham Young University on 6 September 1977.© Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. Complete volumes of Speeches are available wherever LDS books are sold.For further information contact:Speeches, 218 University Press Building, Provo, Utah 84602.(801) 422-2299 / E-mail: speeches@byu.edu / Speeches Home Page

My beloved brothers and sisters, what a joy it is to be with you on your first devotional for the new school year! I am glad to be here and I greet you with my affection and deep-seated love.
I wrote, some time ago, a letter to a disbeliever. Much of what was said in that letter has been on my mind lately and I wish to share the substance of those thoughts in this talk to you. With that explanation you will better understand the point of view assumed and the style in which it is given. Writing to this young man, who was battling with his thoughts, I said:
Dear John:
Your resistance and argument against the truths of the gospel have given me grave concern.
I realize I cannot convince you against your will, but I know I can help you if you will only listen and let me call to your attention some salient truths, and if you will listen with a prayer and a desire to know that what I say is true. I would not, even if I could, force your thinking, for free agency is the basic law of God and each one must assume the responsibility for his own response; but certainly each of us must do his part in influencing for good those who might need some assistance.
The Lord said unto Enoch:
Behold these thy brethren; they are the workmanship of mine own hands, and I gave unto them their knowledge, in the day I created them; and in the Garden of Eden, gave I unto man his agency. [Moses 7:32]
I have lain awake many long hours contemplating and have offered many fervent prayers on my bended knees, hopeful that I might say the right thing, and that you would receive it in the humble spirit in which it is given.
This true way of life is not a matter of opinion. There are absolute truths and relative truths. The rules and dietetics have changed many times in my lifetime. Many scientific findings have changed from year to year. The scientists taught for decades that the world was once a nebulous, molten mass cast off from the sun, and later many scientists said it once was a whirl of dust which solidified. There are many ideas advanced to the world that have been changed to meet the needs of the truth as it has been discovered. There are relative truths, and there are also absolute truths which are the same yesterday, today, and forever--never changing. These absolute truths are not altered by the opinions of men. As science has expanded our understanding of the physical world, certain accepted ideas of science have had to be abandoned in the interest of truth. Some of these seeming truths were stoutly maintained for centuries. The sincere searching of science often rests only on the threshold of truth, whereas revealed facts give us certain absolute truths as a beginning point so we may come to understand the nature of man and the purpose of his life.
The earth is spherical. If all the four billion people in the world think it flat, they are in error. That is an absolute truth, and all the arguing in the world will not change it. Weights will not suspend themselves in the air, but when released will fall earthward. The law of gravity is an absolute truth. It never varies. Greater laws can overcome lesser ones, but that does not change their undeniable truth.
We learn about these absolute truths by being taught by the Spirit. These truths are "independent" in their spiritual sphere and are to be discovered spiritually, though they may be confirmed by experience and intellect (see D&C 93:30). The great prophet Jacob said that "the Spirit speaketh the truth. . . . Wherefore, it speaketh of things as they really are, and of things as they really will be." (Jacob 4:13). We needed to be taught in order to understand life and who we really are.
God, our Heavenly Father--Elohim--lives. That is an absolute truth. All four billion of the children of men on the earth might be ignorant of him and his attributes and his powers, but he still lives. All the people on the earth might deny him and disbelieve, but he lives in spite of them. They may have their own opinions, but he still lives, and his form, powers, and attributes do not change according to men's opinions. In short, opinion alone has no power in the matter of an absolute truth. He still lives. And Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Almighty, the Creator, the Master of the only true way of life--the gospel of Jesus Christ. The intellectual may rationalize him out of existence and the unbeliever may scoff, but Christ still lives and guides the destinies of his people. That is an absolute truth; there is no gainsaying.
The watchmaker in Switzerland, with materials at hand, made the watch that was found in the sand in a California desert. The people who found the watch had never been to Switzerland, nor seen the watchmaker, nor seen the watch made. The watchmaker still existed, no matter the extent of their ignorance or experience. If the watch had a tongue, it might even lie and say, "There is no watchmaker." That would not alter the truth.
If men are really humble, they will realize that they discover, but do not create, truth.
The Gods organized the earth of materials at hand, over which they had control and power. This truth is absolute. A million educated folk might speculate and determine in their minds that the earth came into being by chance. The truth remains. The earth was made by the Gods as was the watch by the watchmaker. Opinions do not change that.
The Gods organized and gave life to man and placed him on the earth. This is absolute. It cannot be disproved. A million brilliant minds might conjecture otherwise, but it is still true. And having done all this for his Father's children, the Christ mapped out a plan of life for man--a positive and absolute program whereby man might achieve, accomplish, and overcome and perfect himself. Again, these vital truths are not matters of opinion. If they were, then your opinion would be just as good as mine, or better. But I give you these things, not as my opinion--I give them to you as divine truths which are absolute.
Someday you will see and feel and understand and perhaps even berate yourself for the long delay and waste of time. It is not a matter of if. It is a matter of when.
Experience in one field does not automatically created expertise in another field. Expertise in religion comes from personal righteousness and from revelation. The Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith: "All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it" (D&C 93:30). A geologist who has discovered truths about the structure of the earth may be oblivious to the truths God has given us about the eternal nature of the family.
If I can only make clear this one thing, it will give us a basis on which to build. Man cannot discover God or his ways by mere mental processes. One must be governed by the laws which control the realm into which he is delving. To become a plumber, one must study the laws which govern plumbing. He must know stresses and strains; temperatures at which pipes will freeze; laws which govern steam, hot water, expansion, contraction, and so forth. One might know much about plumbing and be a complete failure in training children or getting along with men. One might be the best of bookkeepers and yet not know anything of electricity. One might know much about buying and selling groceries and be absolutely ignorant of bridge building.
One might be a great authority on the hydrogen bomb and yet know nothing of banking. One might be a noted theologian and yet be wholly untrained in watchmaking. One might be the author of the law of relativity and yet know nothing of the Creator who originated every law. I repeat, these are not matters of opinion. They are absolute truths. These truths are available to every soul.
Any intelligent man may learn what he wants to learn. He may acquire knowledge in any field, though it requires much thought and effort. It takes more than a decade to get a high school diploma; it takes an additional four years for most people to get a college degree; it takes nearly a quarter-century to become a great physician. Why, oh, why do people think they can fathom the most complex spiritual depths without the necessary experimental and laboratory work accompanied by compliance with the laws that govern it? Absurd it is, but you will frequently find popular personalities, who seem never to have lived a single law of God, discoursing in interviews on religion. How ridiculous for such persons to attempt to outline for the world a way of life!
And yet many a financier, politician, college professor, or owner of a gambling club thinks that because he has risen above all his fellowmen in his particular field he knows everything in every field. One cannot know God nor understand his works or plans unless he follows the laws which govern. The spiritual realm, which is just as absolute as is the physical, cannot be understood by the laws of the physical. You do not learn to make electric generators in a seminary. Neither do you learn certain truths about spiritual things in a physics laboratory. You must go to the spiritual laboratory, use the facilities available there, and comply with the governing rules. Then you may know of these truths just as surely, or more surely, than the scientist knows the metals, or the acids, or other elements. It matters little whether one is a plumber, or a banker, or a farmer, for these occupations are secondary; what is most important is what one knows and believes concerning his past and his future and what he does about it.
When we were spiritual beings, fully organized and able to think and study and understand with him, our Heavenly Father said to us, in effect: "Now, my beloved children, in your spirit state you have progressed about as far as you can. To continue your development, you need physical bodies. I intend to provide a plan whereby you may continue your growth. As you know, one can grow only by overcoming.
"Now," said the Lord, "we shall take of the elements at hand and organize them into an earth, place thereon vegetation and animal life, and permit you to go down upon it. This will be your proving ground. We shall give you a rich earth, lavishly furnished for your benefit and enjoyment, and we shall see if you will prove true and do the things that are asked of you. I will enter into a contract with you. If you will agree to exercise control over your desires and continue to grow toward perfection and godhood by the plan which I shall provide, I will give to you a physical body of flesh and bones and a rich and productive earth, with sun, water, forests, metals, soils, and all other things necessary to feed and clothe and house you and give to you every enjoyment that is proper and for your good. In addition to this, I will make it possible for you to eventually return to me as you improve your life, overcoming obstacles and approaching perfection."
To the above most generous offer, we as sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father responded with gratitude. We took our turns and came to earth as bodies were prepared by our earthly parents. We are now on trial--on the proving ground. This, also, is an absolute truth. It cannot be disproved. It is an incontrovertible fact. If one can accept these unassailable truths, then he is ready to start his experimentation and his laboratory work.
A few more salient facts, which I shall not attempt at this moment to elaborate upon: Adam and Eve transgressed a law and were responsible for a change that came to all their posterity, that of mortality. Could it have been the different food which made the change? Somehow blood, the life-giving element in our bodies, replaced the finer substance which coursed through their bodies before. They and we became mortal, subject to illness, pains, and even the physical dissolution called death. But the spirit, which is supreme in the dual man, transcends the body. It does not decompose but proceeds to the spirit world for further experience, with the assurance that after sufficient preparation there a reunion will take place where the spirit will be housed eternally in a remodeled body of flesh and bones. This time the union will never be dissolved, since there will be no blood to disintegrate and cause trouble. A finer substance will give life to the body and will render it immortal.
This resurrection referred to is the work of Jesus Christ, the Savior, who, because he was both mortal (the son of Mary) and divine (the Son of God), was able to overcome the powers governing the flesh. He actually gave his life and literally took it up again as the "first fruits," to be followed by every soul that has ever lived. Being a god, he gave his life. No one could take it from him. He had developed, through his perfection in overcoming all things, the power to take up his life again. Death was his last enemy, and he overcame even that and established the resurrection. This is an absolute truth. All the theorists in the world cannot disprove it. It is a fact.
Before his crucifixion, the Savior recognized the absolute necessity for an organization of persons duly empowered to carry on his work, teach his plan to the world, and persuade people to follow the eternal program. He therefore organized his Church among his faithful followers, with apostles, prophets, and other officials to give his people guidance. He sent those officials into all the world to teach his truths--but to teach them without using force, for the basic law of this world is free agency. Certainly men and women may use their free agency to do as they please, but they cannot ever evade the penalties that might come by reason of any error they make.
The Lord set up his program of organization fully, gave the governing principles and doctrines, and delegated his full authority to his officers to teach and perform ordinances. He ignored all the multitudinous religious organizations then extant and all their manmade doctrines and philosophies and set up his own divine plan. This is true. If all the proponents of the "-isms" on all the continents disbelieve it, it is still true--an absolute truth.
Even before he went to Calvary, the Lord knew that his young and pitifully small organization could not long resist the wolves of antagonistic philosophies and the terrific persecutions which would come, but he left some stalwart apostles and others to guide and build the kingdom. The Savior knew beyond doubt that an apostasy would come. It did.
Persecution was intolerable. The apostles are said to have suffered martyrs' deaths. Innumerable others, both priesthood and laity, suffered unbelievable tortures. The Church was uprooted and almost destroyed by physical horrors; then finally, through pagan rulers who were not truly converted, Christianity was accepted and made popular. In order to do so and to get the nations to accept it, pagan superstitions and doctrines were superimposed upon the Christian doctrines and intermingled until the doctrines and ordinances established by the Christ were changed and diluted so that they had only a faint resemblance to the truth. With the authorized servants martyred and both authority and doctrines gone, the world went into a spiritual tailspin and plunged into the Dark Ages, wherein the true understanding of God and his plan was not upon the earth; when gross darkness enveloped the people; when there was little progress even in material things and an almost complete void spiritually.
This apostasy is a certainty. There is no room for doubt. God's church was lost for the moment, as it had been through many centuries in the past. The true plan of life was placed upon the earth in the beginning when it was given to Adam. After a few generations, the descendants of Adam went the way of the world and most of the earth's children lost the truths and the knowledge of God and of the gospel. One descendant of Adam, Enoch, again established good communications with God and again established truths upon the earth, but only comparatively few of the inhabitants listened and accepted; hence, there was another great apostasy from the truth.
The people of the world became so wicked that they were literally drowned and washed off the earth. Noah, a righteous prophet, reestablished communication with the Lord and carried on the work of the Lord, but only for a brief period, for weak mortal man permitted the flesh to control the spirit again, and another great apostasy took place and most of the people were without a knowledge and understanding of God.
Time passed, idolatry prevailed, wickedness increased--but finally the Lord sent a superior spirit to earth, born the son of Terah. Though all on earth were apostate, having turned to the worship of idols and to murder, adultery, drunkenness, bribery, and all manner of evil, this child--Abraham--grew up with sufficient power and goodness to cause the heavens to open again, and God revealed again to him all these truths I am writing about. Abraham spent a glorious life teaching righteousness to his own numerous posterity and to others. As in all other dispensations, the majority went foul, ignored the true way, and followed the way of the world.
Then the Savior was born in Judea, ushering in another dispensation. He reestablished his truths on the earth--the priesthood, the power, the organization, the knowledge to save and exalt men--but, as stated earlier, this lasted only a few generations and was gone again.
Now, with the doctrines perverted, the priesthood gone, the organization corrupted, and the knowledge lost, there must come another awakening. And, as the prophet Daniel prophesied millennia ago, there finally came a day when another restoration of truth should come, this time never to be lost. We have that promise now, that even though individuals may fall the Church and the gospel are here to stay, and all the powers of the earth and hell cannot effect total apostasy again. This much-needed restoration came through the Prophet Joseph Smith, who followed in the march of the prophets Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, and Moses, and the Lord Jesus Christ. And this is the Church organized through revelation by the Savior: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It was organized by revelation from Jesus Christ. It was given full and complete authority, full and complete plans and programs.
This restoration was preceded by a long period of preparation. The Pilgrims and other Europeans were inspired to find this American haven of refuge and thus people this land with honest and God-fearing citizens. Washington and his fellows were inspired to revolt from England and bring political liberty to this land, along with the more valuable treasure of religious liberty so that the soil might be prepared for the seed of the truth when it should again be sown.
So, in the early nineteenth century, the "marvelous work and a wonder" was reintroduced in to the world. The youthful Prophet, whose mind had not been contaminated with the sins of the world or prejudiced by false philosophies of men, was the instrument of the Restoration. As in all of the other dispensations, and especially the one preceding it when Jesus personally came to restore it, the little seed of truth had to fight a mountain of falsehood. Church organizations made by men, without claim to divinity or revelation, were everywhere in abundance. The corrupted doctrines of former centuries were all there. Religious confusion reigned and most of the world opposed the work bitterly and cried "false prophet" at the first mention of the restored truth. The tiny organization, begun in 1830 with six members, has had phenomenal growth to some four million in that short period. It is here to stay. This church of Jesus Christ (nicknamed Mormon) is the "only true and living church" that is fully recognized with the authority to perform for him, and the only one with a total and comprehensive and true program which will carry men to powers unbelievable and to realms incredible.
This is an absolute truth. It cannot be disproved. It is as true and the near-spherical shape of the earth, and as gravity; as true as the shining of the sun--as positive as the truth that we live. Most of the world disbelieves it, ministers attempt to disprove it, intellectuals think to rationalize it out of existence; but when all the people of the world are dead, and ministers and priests are ashes, and the highly trained are mouldering in their graves, the truth will go forward--the Church will continue triumphant and the gospel will still be true.
The Lord has defined truth as being a "knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come" (D&C 93:24). God's existence is a reality. Immortality is a reality. These realities will not go away simply because we have different opinions about them. These realities will not be dissolved just because some have doubts about them.
Opinion? Of course, there is a difference of opinion but again, opinion cannot change laws or absolute truths. Opinions will never make the earth to be flat, the sun to dim its light, God to die, or the Savior to cease being the Son of God.
Now, it is a good question which has been asked by millions since Joseph Smith phrased it: How am I to know which of all, if any, of the organizations is authentic, divine, and recognized by the Lord?
He has given the key. You may know. You need not be in doubt. Follow the prescribed procedures, and you may have an absolute knowledge that these things are absolute truths. The necessary procedure is: study, think, pray, and do. Revelation is the key. God will make it known to you once you have capitulated and have become humble and receptive. Having dropped all pride of your mental stature, having acknowledged before God your confusion, having subjected your egotism, and having surrendered yourself to the teaching of the Holy Spirit, you are ready to begin to learn. With preconceived religious notions stubbornly held, one is not teachable. The Lord has promised repeatedly that he will give you a knowledge of spiritual things when you have placed yourself in a proper frame of mind. He has counseled us to seek, ask, and search diligently. These innumerable promises are epitomized by Moroni in the following: "And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things" (Moroni 10:5). What a promise! How extravagant! How wonderful!
May I repeat, the time will come when there will be surrender of every person who has ever lived on this earth, who is now living, or who ever will live on this earth; and it will be an unforced surrender, an unconditional surrender. When will it be for you? Today? In twenty years? Two hundred years? Two thousand or a million? When? Again, to you, John, I say, it is not if you will capitulate to the great truth; it is when, for I know that you cannot indefinitely resist the power and pressure of truth. Why not now? Much time has been lost. The years ahead can be far more glorious for you than any years in the past.
How foolish would be the enslaved Israelite who was born in slavery and had never known anything but slavery to say to himself, "This is life. There is nothing better than this. Here I get my belly full daily and a fair space in which to sleep." How short-sighted he would be to prefer such status when he is told that across the sea and across the desert a promised land awaits where he can be free and well-fed, be master of his own destinies, and have leisure, culture, growth, and all one's heart could rightfully desire. What does it matter? What is the difference between light and darkness--growing and shriveling--a giant and a pygmy--freedom and slavery--eternity and the one day--life and death?
Now, with great humility, I send this message to you, John, and to all others who may hear it, with a prayer in my heart that you will not cast it aside, but that you will think it through and ponder about it as you pray about it. There must be an open mind, a sincere heart, a desire, a reaching. The assurance will definitely come to you, but not unless you make an effort. I bear testimony to you that this is true. I know it. I send to you a solemn warning; and when you stand before the judgment bar in the not-too-distant future, you will know then that I spoke the truth with your eternal welfare in mind. Please remember that I have tried to bring this matter to your attention with such force that it would impress you. The true and living Church and its members and representatives stand ready to provide answers to any questions; and I promise you faithfully that if you will study and pray, keeping your mind open, you will receive the light, and it will be to you as the dawning of a new day after having gone through the night of darkness.
Again, I offer the assistance of the Church, but I will not push this matter upon you nor force it. You are mature, you have a good mind, you have a strong background, and the seeds of truth were sown in your life in your youth. All the powers of earth and heaven cannot bring this knowledge to you. It cannot be hoped for nor purchased. It must come by a careful, honest, and sincere investigation. The Church stands ready to furnish such assistance as you may require.
You cannot cast off this appeal and warning without grave responsibility. You will have to answer to your Creator if you ignore it, just as I would have to answer if I ignored it. I am doing my best to present it. I know that this is the only complete, divine, eternal program which is recognized and approved of God!
Joseph Smith went into a grove, spent a long time on his knees, and came out with knowledge to the divinity of Elohim and his Son, Jesus Christ--such a firm conviction that he went voluntarily to his martyrdom rather than deny it.
Paul, on his way to Damascus, saw a glorious personage and heard his voice; and yet, after even these unusual manifestations, Paul prayed so that he could know beyond the shadow of doubt of the divinity of Jesus Christ, and of his Father, and of his eternal program, the gospel. He finally knew it so positively that he gave the balance of his life teaching it. He was stoned nearly to death and raised again. He suffered hunger, thirst, persecutions. And then, knowing full well that his life would be taken, he went gloriously to his death, thus giving not only his energy, time, and earning capacity but his very life for the cause. Paul knew more about the healing and saving truths that were necessary for the welfare of human souls than all of the sages and the doctors of his time or this time. He knew that God lived, Jesus was the Christ, and the gospel was a way of eternal life, mortal and immortal, never ending; he knew that the rewards of eternities were worth the sacrifice of comforts of this life.
You may know, as did Joseph Smith, Paul, and Peter, and as do a great number of your contemporaries. This is not another church. This is the Church. This is not another gospel or philosophy. This is the church and gospel of Jesus Christ.
Our Father lives; his Son lives. I am so sure of this that I am willing to bear witness of it with the last effort of my tongue and lips. I am willing to go into eternity and face my God with this testimony on my lips. Of these truths I bear witness in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.


“Fullness or Only Part?”

cji
5/3/09

What the world rejects
condemns and affirms
have little to do with life
eternal forever and ever
thinking they’re so clever;

Lost is any meaning known
just random samples endure
selfishness and wanton lusts
caring not what is really true
in fullness or only part to view;

Thus hindering any presentation
ignoring, damning the Prophets
declaring nothing really matters
having perfected this new art
without fullness and only part!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Sunday, March 8, 2009

“Univocal”


“Univocal”
cji
3/8/09

Over the years multiple thousands of books and pamphlets have been written to deny or to explain away the Book of Mormon and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mostly all of these writings have convinced the writers and others of at least two things. First – not to read the Book of Mormon and secondly don’t listen to an active member of the Church discuss or answer your questions about the Church. In the first instance it’s difficult to believe one would take another’s word on whether to read or not read a book professing to be the word of God and a second witness to our Savior. In the second instance who should one ask about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to learn about the beliefs of the Church?

The Univocal voice of the Father and the Son is the same yesterday, today and forever – yet the world and those in the world seem to believe otherwise. The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price each contain the word and voice of the Father, the Son and their Prophets. The Heavens are not closed and prayers can be answered. Revelations and truth – wisdom can only be gained through an exchange between the Father and Son and those of us now in mortality. This exchange pertains to the Wisdom of God and not that of men/women or the world.

It would seem for centuries the world has taught that the Bible was all that there is and is to be – yet the world even rejects their own premise in that one today can find a Bible for almost every religion of men/women. Edition after edition come off of the presses – making it simpler – deleting material – adding material and changing the meaning of the material found within the Bible as we know it today. For over 1500 years there was no Bible – just a collection of the writings from the Prophets before the birth of Christ and after his birth. Indeed there were over 3400+ of these collected writings or individual books of text from the various authors (mostly Prophets and Apostles) proclaiming to be the Word of God!

Yet those who profess their efforts to be the Word of God – edited, translated, changed, and deleting whole books and Prophets and also redefining the meanings and usage of the Father, Son and their Prophets/Apostles claim there can be no other scriptures. Historically and common sense tells many that this is a strange truth to believe – but a convenient one who chooses not to obey completely the commandments, laws and statutes of the Father and the Son.

Whereas many have edited and translated the various books found within the Bible and are still doing so today the biggest criticism of the Book of Mormon is that only one person translated without collaboration of any other mortal being. It’s also being claimed that since the world of his day had no impute into the final draft that it’s only dependent on taking his word it’s not a hoax. Therefore the worldly and its ministers, preachers, priests and churches proclaim loudly in print and from the pulpit that it (the Book of Mormon) is a hoax of the worst kind. It leads people away from the Savior and thus into the depth’s of Hell. This is a curious claim by the world and even more curious that many in the world believe this claim.

Here’s a book, the Book of Mormon, which proclaims Jesus is the Christ – repeatedly throughout – and that with the exception of some clerical changes – into versus and chapters (and some grammar) is unchanged in any substantive matter since its first publication. When the original manuscript was taken to the printed it was in one paragraph lasting some 540+ pages of hand written text. It was translated in about three months – without computers, cross-referencing, and has been proved over the past century plus eighty years to be more correct than anything which had been known in the 1820’s. Nothing in any of the libraries or in the schools of learning of the time could’ve been used because they all would’ve been wrong. This was also done by a basically uneducated young man of his late teens and early twenties – un-traveled in the world and unread of the world’s manuscripts, only relying upon the univocal voice of the Father and the Son.

Further those who were the transcribers of the translated text would marvel and tell others that this young man would start right where he left off from before and never asked them for comment or where they had left off. The text references itself without error on a number of occasions without once going back to check or repeat the earlier text. The grammatical usages have shown to be the most accurate of the languages – Hebrew and Egyptian (or Reformed Egyptian).

How could this be so – and yet not be true? How can the worldly and the men and women of the world profess this one book to be a hoax and at that a bad one at best? How can the Bible and the Book of Mormon be companion volumes and not be witnesses of each other? One could ask how can the world/worldly accept the Bible at face value – true and complete and not accept the Book of Mormon which testifies of the same univocal voice of the Father and the Son. However, many do not ask and will not ask – for they’re so much of the world they are afraid to ask.

It should be remembered where we’ve gotten the Bible of today in all its editions. First the world has gotten the early scriptures from the Jews! Secondly it was not the Jews who held the Priesthood – but from those post 70AD of the rabbinical schools. The usage of the many words being found today in archeology and related findings have slowly been unearthing original texts from several thousand years ago – which language is different from the immediate translations/editions of the Jews post 70AD. After the Rabbinical schools the translations and editions were passed to the various schools of Philosophy of the early 3rd to 5th Centuries.

One must not omit those who proclaimed to be the followers of the Apostles – called Gnostics – or ones teaching their own interpretations after the death of the last of the Apostles. Their teachings are still alive and well today – i.e. the recent popularity of the Book of Judas (which in 150AD was proclaimed a fraud). But a good point can be made of this Book of Judas – the world/worldly was more willing to accept this than the Book of Mormon! Why, because the world/worldly have lost almost all identification of the voice of the Lord or the univocal application of the Father and the Son’s voice and teachings. There are other purely fictional books which the world has celebrated and given the credibility of truth – ignoring that the book is fiction. This pattern of acceptance is a vain attempt to give credibility to the world and not to God!

There’s a fairy tale about a King seeking new clothes – he was extremely vain and wanted to show off to his people. Each time he paraded about the crowds would applaud and cheer (not unlike the masses found in pre-WWII and other such events). Then came two frauds into his life – they played upon his vanity and indeed his blindness to the real. Thus when the King paraded their wears he was again getting the applause, etc. until a small child shouted out, “The King is wearing no clothes!” Initially there was denial but soon all knew as did the King he was in fact without clothes. Of course this is only a fairy tale – and in today’s world one would stone the boy for the simplicity of his truthful fact.

In this case the boy was Joseph Smith, Jr. who proclaimed at the age of 14 he went to the woods to ask of the Lord which church he should join. He then beheld a vision – in which the Father calling the Son by name said, “This is my beloved Son – hear ye him!” No young man in the early 1800’s could make this up – for it was not taught anywhere – in fact the world was in complete denial (even today) that any such thing could happen. The clarion univocal voice found throughout the scriptures proclaims this to be true – over and over and yet men/women of the world refuse to believe this vision and truth. Yet for testifying of this vision – never wavering – he was persecuted, tarred and feathered, falsely imprisoned and otherwise demeaned by the worldly and their minions.

While most of the world would proclaim ‘they’re seeking truth’ – ‘that they believe in and follow the Savior’ – and yet they reject his voice and his Prophets. Not just referring to the Book of Mormon – but something even simpler – the Ten Commandments – the requirement is to keep all of them – all of the time – without any exceptions! However, a simple review would indicate that this is no longer the case in almost any practicing Christian or non-Christian life today. One has said, “The price of Integrity – is the enmity of the world!” If you ever need to know you’re a stranger here – it will be most known by the enmity of the world.

One must recognize the univocal voice of the world/worldly – it’s found in the mixture of the scriptures (what they choose to use) and the teachings of the philosophy of men/women. By the early 3rd/4th Centuries – all of the early teachings of the Savior and the Apostles of the European/Asian worlds had been altered, changed or merged with Greek Philosophy and Rhetoric. In the world of the America’s this also took place. It should also be recognized that the apostasy (of which all of the Prophets/Apostles) which the Savior foretold came from within the Church – for to those not of the Church – it was all meaningless anyway. The greatest reason for the acceptance of the guise of Christianity was that of power, wealth and dominion over the classes of people by the emperors and others. This power, wealth and dominion is still in effect today!

The univocal voice of the Father and the Son – is the one of simplicity – common sense – and open and available to anyone to understand – if they meet two conditions. First a humble and contrite heart and Second to come in prayer. Then one must ponder all of the Scriptures – and to those who ask – wisdom will be given – even revelations – not of the world/worldly but of the eternal. This univocal voice cannot be heard in brass bands – charismatic rhetorical preaching – contending one with another – or in not being found obedient in all of the commandments, laws and statutes of the Lord! One cannot continue to blame Adam and Eve – one needs to accept personal responsibility and accountability for themselves and their eternal salvation. One cannot accept part, but not all of the Scriptures literally – or as the univocal voice of the Father and Son. One must accept them all – and heed the Prophets throughout the ages and today literally. One must get off of the fence of the world/worldly and Zion – for to be on the fence is to be part and parcel of the world/worldly! Zion is the antithesis of the world in every way in thought, actions and beliefs.

Seldom can one understand the world of Zion without prayer, pondering the scriptures, repenting, being humble and contrite. One cannot be worldly and understand the univocal voice of the Father or the Son. One must find themselves becoming one with the Father and the Son – and of one voice or indeed univocal in all things. The Bible (as translated correctly), the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price are the standard works of scripture today on this earth for all to read and understand. They are of one voice – simple and of common sense – however one must be found worthy (i.e. humble, contrite and repentant) to converse with the Father and Son for understanding.

Let there be no misunderstanding – the Book of Mormon is the most correct book ever translated (or written) in the history of the world as we know it – not once has anyone of the thousands of articles/books written to defame it ever accomplished their goal. Some of these same writers encouraged the murders in cold blood of the Prophet and others – among them women and children (including small infants) in the 1830-1890’s; they stole property, abused, raped, pillaged and drove the Saints (i.e. members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) from the soil of the United States – in the middle of winter and bragged about doing so and the clergy in the land both East and West supported these efforts.
Yet we must remember also – as Brigham Young has stated, “Some Mormon’s are Mormon’s but not all Mormon’s are Saints!” Whereas we all try to be found in Zion – we like all men/women have mortality and therefore are needful to repent and to keep repenting (not of grievous sins) but of our faults in trying to become more like the Father and the Son.

Belonging to the Lord’s Church here upon this earth in these latter-days is most difficult and enduring – because of the nature and temptations of the world/worldly. The refiner’s fire is meant for all to jump in and to endure – regardless of the tasks so associated within our lives individually. One must acknowledge pride, passions and will to the subservience of the Father and the Son. This one action is completely in opposition to the world. Yet in accepting the truthfulness of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ – theirs is greater happiness and joy – a greater peace and understanding of where we came from – why we’re here and where we might be going (with our loved ones) if worthy. This singularity of purpose – of one voice – truly magnifies the univocal teachings of the Father and the Son.

Joseph Smith, Jr. was and is a Prophet of God – all of those who’ve held this mantle passed on by him with keys and authority are Prophets of God – and today that mantle rests upon Thomas S. Monson – President and Prophet of the Lord’s Church – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I testify of these things – freely, willingly and knowingly – that they are true – eternal and full accord with the Father and the Son – in the name of the Son – even Jesus Christ – amen.


“Univocal”

cji
3/8/09

Hearing a voice
similar and familiar
one and the same
yesterday, today
and eternally to be
knowing of truth
understanding all
without guile found
for this the voice
of the Father and Son
univocal to embrace!


Copyright © 2009 – cji
“3 Nephi 19:29 Father, I pray not for the world, but for those whom thou hast given me out of the world, because of their faith, that they may be purified in me, that I may be in them as thou, Father, art in me, that we may be one, that I may be glorified in them.”

Monday, March 2, 2009

“Preparing for a Celestial Life”


“Preparing for a Celestial Life”
cji
3/2/09

(Prelude: A Celestial Life is one of living with and in the presence of the Father and the Son – with our families and theirs, married for time and all eternity, with bodies of flesh and bone like theirs forever and ever. This idea is foreign to the worldly and the worldly wisdom teachings of men/women. The idea of being “saved” and a Celestial Life are quite different – all who don’t deny the Holy Ghost or shed innocent blood are “saved” through the atonement of the Savior and are subject to the Commandments having heard the Laws and Statutes of the Savior during their mortal probation. To live a Celestial Life in our next estate requires obedience to all of the teachings of Father, the Son and their Prophets during this lifetime.)

The idea of preparing for a Celestial life here is foreign to almost all - but it's the specific reason we came to this earth and mortality - this is simply a probationary window of time. The world has dismissed so many of the Commandments, Laws and Statutes of the Lord that most is totally unrecognizable to the average person trying to get by. The type of faith we're supposed to have and what the worldly call faith are two distinct different types. Most proclaim a faith in the Father and the Son - but don't believe they're two completely separate individuals with bodies of flesh and bone (thus confusion right from the start of something so clear in what remains of the Scriptures to make one wonder why all don't understand this).

Faith requires belief - it's not just another word or someone's name. Yet those same people who declare "I believe" haven't a clue as thinking of actually trusting the Lord and thus being totally obedient to Him. If one fails to see all that is available (in ancient Egypt - all included all that they could see and all that they couldn't see as well) - then they'll miss the simply stuff in the entanglement of the worldly view of things. This is as the adversary likes it to be and it would appear with the majority of the world he's already won the day. The scripture, "Many are called, but few are chosen" has a lot of bearing on this issue. The Scriptures clearly state there can only be 'one Church' 'one Prophet' 'one Baptism' and it follows then there can only be one or that there is then none. The Church has to be organized by the Father and the Son - they call who they want to be their spokesman on the earth (or the Prophet) - and it will be called by the name of the Son - who's Church it is on this world. There'll be no paid clergy - there will nothing for gain of the world - but of the blessings and surety of Temple Sealings and instruction of the wisdom of God the Father and God the Son (our Savior) so that one can prepare for eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom with them and their families (theirs and ours) for all time and eternity.

The worldly view is all about mammon and power - and rejects any such beliefs as the above paragraph - denying truth and truisms - creating their own instead and directing their clergy, priests, rabbis, clerics, ministers, etc. to teach what the people want to hear mixing some scripture with the Greek philosophy handed down in the schools. They deny current revelation saying they've got all that they need - they deny the heavens are open and God no longer communicates with men/women/children on this earth as being no longer needful. They deny the Temple Blessings of Sealing saying that when a person dies - they will no longer have a body of bones and flesh - and they'll no longer be married or live as families - and that all will be saved - or they teach there is nothing after death and it's just the end! Patti Page used to sing a song, "Is That All There Is" and the world used this as the lesson - with the definitive answer - "Yes - this is all there is!"

We come here with the gift of agency or the gift of choice. We can make our own choices based on the wisdom we're willing to gain or not gain. Worldly wisdom will lead one - one way and God's wisdom another - you cannot mix the two!! This would be trying to serve two masters and it cannot be done. Of course the world teaches that you can serve two masters - loving each - as long as you love the worldly more. The world uses fear and incentive motivation to entice, beguile, subject, hold dominion, seduce and otherwise lead men/women and children into their belief systems. The Father and the Son use 'attitude motivation' allowing men, women and children the ability to learn to choose right from wrong. There is no coercion on the part of the Father or the Son - no beguiling or otherwise anything which would take away one's agency.

We must remember there were two plans in the preexistence - the Saviors (and the Fathers) and Satan's. One was that man/woman would come to this earth and be able to chose to be good or evil - to be obedient or not, to seek to learn the wisdom of the Father and the Son - or to chose the worldly. The second plan was purely selfish - Satan offered to save everyone giving no one the choice of good or evil - right from wrong - that man/woman would come to this earth get their mortal body and then return - but that the glory would be his (Satan) forever and ever. The worldly love Satan more than God - people surrender their agency to others in Satan's world - something which could never be taken from them - by greed, lusts, avarice, envy, selfishness, etc. Each time a person chooses something wrong over something good - and then justifies their actions they've surrender more of their agency to another. This could be in a lie, stealing, immoral behavior and the like which the worlds condones readily as just getting by. Cheating on tests - rumors - denying another in need - all which the world condones as well.

Satan doesn't care if one is good or bad as long as they don't seek to find the Savior's one Church! Even then he doesn't care if one joins the Church of Jesus Christ - as long as they don't go to the Temple - and even then he doesn't care as long as one doesn't keep the covenants they make in the Temple (or House of the Lord). What he does care about is if you strive to keep all of the Commandment, Laws and Statutes of the Father and the Son - all of the time - everyday - and repenting when you slip - taking the Sacrament on Sunday's - and turning away from the worldly and staying on Zion's road only. He's very happy that most just want to be good - for he knows in the next estate they'll be as miserable as he's found to be all of the time denied a body forever and ever. He's happy that most will never join the one Church - will deny the Prophets, will deny the Plan of Salvation and will indeed deny the teachings of the Scriptures as being literal.

We each must understand that we're literally the children of Heavenly Father - and that the Savior is our literal older brother - and that as promised in the Scriptures we were made in their image and we can become like them eternally without end. This requires to be baptized by one having authority holding the Aaronic Priesthood and the office therein of a Priest or the Melchizedek Priesthood. Next, each person has to be sealed (for time and all eternity) to their ancestors and their families in the Temple (or House of the Lord). The sealing can only be done by those having authority to perform this sealing by one holding the authority to Seal here on earth. Finally and most importantly each have to life worthily of the covenants they make with the Lord - while on this earth forever and ever.

As It’s often said there is nothing easy about living fully the Gospel of Jesus Christ while on this earth - the worldly make this all but improbable. However the Lord giveth no commandment unless there be a way for it to be accomplished (see 1 Nephi 3:7 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, said unto my father: I will go and do the things which the Lord hath commanded, for I know that the Lord giveth no commandments unto the children of men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them). We must live fully the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we’ve heard it, can read and understand and have had access to prayer and the Scriptures. Only those without knowledge of the laws of the Father and the Son will be the exception to these conditions! This would include those who’re unteachable with handicaps which would preclude them from learning and/or understanding; or little children under the age of eight (or accountability) or those who lived when the Gospel was not available to them because of the wickedness of the world and men/women within the world.

Preparation then requires one to seek as an individual recognizes that they’re a stranger here on this earth and that there are more than the teachings of men/women and the world or worldly. That each has a ‘mission’ to return home and to learn and know where and what home is. One also has to realize that they must reach and understand higher laws to achieve this wisdom. The commandment says to ‘Seek Wisdom’ which means sitting idle most likely it will not come to you. Where do we seek it – out of the best books which are those which can lead us to eternal life and home once more! When this commandment was given the best books were those of the individual Prophets as there was no individual Bible (in toto’) as we’ve been presented today. These books were known as the records of their fathers and thus were kept current as long as there was a Prophet upon the Earth. To curtail these teachings the masses would often kill by stoning the Prophets and once dead they could change or alter or interpret what the Prophet had actually taught or said. This practice continues even to us in these latter-days. Even Peter in a letter to James asked, “If the people change what I’ve said while alive – what will they do when I’m dead?”

Thus we cannot count on what man/woman or the world/worldly have altered, changed or deleted from the Scriptures – therefore we’ve to ponder, prayer and ask of God (see James 1:5) so we ourselves can discern what is true and what is not. This requires real effort and some sacrifice because you won’t find much assistance or encouragement from the world/worldly and those such employed to teach or instruct you in such things. The reasons for this state of affairs is legion but to give a couple they might fall into these reasons: 1) ignorance of the world/worldly; 2) avoidance of the truth; 3) denial of the truth; 4) to get gain from the world; and the one I tend to think about, 5) fear of what teaching the truth will mean to the world/worldly and their positions of power and dominion!

There’s a dynamic at play in the lives of all – whether fear, incentive or attitude motivation is at play. This dynamic causes an individual to cower – beg or act in their inner world seeking the answers to the questions; Why am I here – Where did I come from and Where am I going? Some have gotten beyond feeling and just don’t care, while others care but feel they’ve all the information they need to know and others yet will ask questions seeking truthful answers. The latter group tends to be in the minority and easily segregated from the world/worldly as trouble makers. This dynamic is the Spirit of the Holy Ghost which prompts us into action – or to recognize something just doesn’t make sense or answer the questions above. It’s the numbing of these ‘feelings’ or ‘promptings’ that the world/worldly work overtime to achieve. Heavenly Father or the Savior never spoke in rhetorical or attention getting theater – they spoke in the ‘Still small voice’ – yet today those who proclaim the world’s version of the Gospel rant and rave have wild music and even require audience participation. They put on an act – get the blood pressures rising and it become more zeal than truth or substance. Then each in turn passes the basket for your donations. In some churches of today they’ll tell you how much you should be paying to attend for one must pay for the preacher – his/her home and transportation, etc. And yes for the building(s), etc.

How we individually care for the Holy Ghost in our lives makes all the difference in whether we are seeking a Celestial Life or just being ‘saved’ is enough. If we nourish and find the wisdom in the best books – adhering to the promptings and assurance of what is true and what is not! We learn to recognize the voice of the Father and the Son. This is important so that we will not be led astray – unless we choose so to be. The dynamic of the Holy Ghost is the keystone to the Celestial Kingdom and a Celestial Life.

We need – better we absolutely need to prepare for a Celestial Life while here upon this earth! As an example – many feel awe and wonder when going to the White House – some even pay for the right to do so – and others need to be invited within. However, anyone can go to the White House – yet why the awe? It’s because of the power of those who reside or work there. Yet they are merely mortals like each of us and are performing either an elected role or appointed role or an employment role.

Yet those who have this awe and wonder over this mortal illusion of power ‘The White House’ – take no care in preparing once more to meet with our Father or His Son our Savior! The difference is one cannot pay or be invited within if they ARE NOT WORTHY and found OBEDIENT to the Commandments and have made Covenants which we’re to make while upon this earth in mortality. Many having not understood their divine relationship with the Father and the Son – they continue to live as though they cannot understand the Father and the Son. If this were indeed the case then the world/worldly and Satan has won the day. However this isn’t true – theirs is nothing we cannot learn about the Father and the Son so that we can feel worthy to reenter their presence. We in humility and a mortal understanding fortunately don’t make the final decision of our worthiness – we just have to live in total obedience literally to the commandments and covenants of the Lord. We do all we can do to be righteous – repenting when we slip – and quickly vowing not to again slip to that temptation. This in addition means living apart from the world/worldly and its teachings. Thus being in contrast to the worldly one will be quickly identified as being different – and thus treated as such for good or evil to the will of the world/worldly.

To not prepare to live a Celestial Life is to have fallen short of one’s probationary preparation in mortality. The last thing we did prior to leaving the presence of the Father was to promise (Covenant) to return! Interestingly we’ll be the ones to recognize this failure and what might have been. We will be unable to go near this blessing knowing we did not do all we could do – we did not learn all we could learn – and thus we did not enter into the covenants which can only be made on this earth to return to our Father and His Son – eternally in the Celestial Kingdom to live forever a Celestial Life.


“A Celestial Life”

cji
3/2/09

A family eternal
sealed for time
and all eternity
forever and ever
understanding
thus becoming
as one with all
as the Father/Son
we with our family
and thus with them
and their families
a Celestial Life
ever and forever!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

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"Progress is unfinite – its beginning was before coming to this mortal estate and will continue after we leave mortality – it’s eternal and as such so are we if found obedient! One is always progressing – either forward or backwards – none ever remain where they were/are – treading water is a worldly term to justify doing nothing – but doing nothing means one is moving backward. Lessons learned are only as good as the application we make of them – nothing more or less," cji 1/23/09

Sunday, March 1, 2009

What is a fact?

What is a fact?

There are at least three kinds of facts: 1) a real fact which is both truth and proven; 2) a rhetorical fact where everyone seems happy with the presentation and won’t ask any questions; and 3) something with out any relationship to 1 and 2! Yes this is a wise crack type answer to be sure – but it would be my guess that a fact is what someone wants to believe to be true – without reservation and often without much proof or effort..

What is a fact? Pondering this when doing research I’ve often wondered who’s done their homework and how much effort was put forth in their presentation. A fact should be a discernable piece of information related to the subject at hand with several references and no disputable credibility. Doing one’s homework is much more complicated than opening a book and answering the ‘pat’ answers to the material found therein. It requires one to be a serious scholar in understand what makes common sense and why? This would preclude anything which can be refuted and not hold up under close inspection of one or many needing to use the information without prejudice. Most non-facts don’t really make much sense when applied to a situation of real life. Too many are too busy creating facts that they feel the numbers will override the truth.

Hitler did this in his ranting and raving in repetitious manner to get many to believe his lies as facts. Many believed him because they wanted to believe him – for in doing so there was a supposed gain in the future (or present) for them. Some would consider not being shot as a gain. This would be true in many 3rd world countries where to believe the majority is to live and anything else is death or worse than death. The majority being those in power and nothing else then mattered. It could be said it was very easy to believe St. Augustine as the alternative was to be put to death for believing in the early Christian beliefs as taught by the Savior, his Apostles and the Prophets.

Many use written texts as being factual because; they were published, others reference them, and it just must be true (why would the author lie). In actuality many authors and publishers have gotten slack or have a stick to burn when writing and publishing. In 1834 a book was published entitled, “Mormonism Exposed” which was as virulent book as has been published against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Joseph Smith, Jr. This book “Mormonism Exposed” and another 1500-4000+ like it are still in publication even though the entire original has been discovered to be untrue and based on hatred rather than facts. One could argue that the authors believed what they wrote but even this has been disproved. Yet even today ‘scholars’ quote from these books to discredit the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. However any person with a minimal amount of common sense can see through the lies and observe for themselves what is truth and what is a lie.

This issue of common sense brings up a critical point of accepting a lie as a fact – for many will not use common sense and almost all of the critics (the worst being those who’ve apostates from the Church) justify and resolve on their decisions without wanting to know the truth. Most would rather believe a ‘lie’ ‘falsehood’ ‘rhetoric’ etc. without every seeking anything further as these pacify their behaviors and attitudes. To keep all of the Commandments of Heavenly Father – is just too unrealistic in today’s world. Thus the lie appears in the form of beguilement that you don’t have to keep them all to the letter – but here a little and there a little – and certainly none of us are killers or adulterers! For this and other reasons the people will continue to pay men/women to teach them what they want to hear and not have to change or follow a living Prophet.

Idle men/women living in the halls of institutions called schools, universities, colleges, etc. thrive on trying to explain how God (if there is one) – is pretty much like they are and will condone their behavior and after all aren’t they all ‘saved’ already? And the commandment to, “Become perfect even as the Father is perfect” finds the usual excuses of a modern definition which appear impossible to achieve! Yet the word translated into ‘perfect’ is the Greek word “Helios” which represented being complete or having completed a task or a mission. These same idle men/women seek to enhance the wisdom of men and rejecting the common sense simplicity of God and in doing so disengage facts into parts and parcels of disinformation taught as true fact(s)!

So how can we discern a real fact? To discern a factual truth is quite easy – test it! Does it make sense – really? What is the purpose the fact? How does this fact apply in your life? Is the fact just generally accepted because of peer pressure or political pressure? And if you really want to know and have done all of your own research and homework you can take it in prayer to the Father, “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him,” (James 1:5). For those who don’t believe in God or feel the heavens are closed – this method will not work for obvious reasons. But if one doesn’t believe in God then what the world gives to them is all they in a sense need and would not be worried about what is truth and what is not. For all others however the above is the best and easiest method.

When one considers how easy it is to discern truth (fact) from falsehood (fiction) then why do so many prefer not to learn for themselves about something which is so very important to them? It’s not that most people are bad – or even indifferent it’s because of the confusion found within the world today. Most prefer to avoid a confrontation about anything – including their eternal salvation which is where the most important facts need to be known. They’ll accept anger, falsehoods, contention, and abuse (of others) and feel its okay – just don’t rock the boat. This is also one the biggest reason when one finds a ‘truth’ or fact – they will not make known to others. In a talk I used to give – this was called, “A fear of laughter – or abuse from another,” and another aspect is similar to the Stockholm Effect where an abused person stays in the abused relationship for a fear of change. People really only do things for two reasons; 1) to gain a benefit or 2) to avoid a loss! Sadly most will hold their course even if this lack of action infringes on their eternal salvation.

You notice I keep going to the eternal aspect of the issue of what is a fact – and the reason is this is what we’re supposed to be learning about in this mortal probation. Without this in mind or as an eternal goal any discussion on truth is irrelevant! For when only feels this life is all there is – and that all which is spoken in the Scriptures is only a good story but not to be believed literally then any ‘fact’ whether true, partially true or not will do.

We’ve each to determine whether the Scriptures are literally true – have not been altered to meet the needs of men/women and the world and whether there really is a Prophet on the earth once more today? Whether what the Savior and the Prophets have taught (long ago or today) really matters in our lives? The answers we give – one Church, one Gospel, one Baptism or that there can be many really will decide how we discern truth or fiction. For you cannot believe the Bible and the World – only one is true, not both. When men/women seek the employ of the world in their preaching, teaching and obedience there’s no longer a need for the Scriptures except to lead others to their way of thinking. When one believes the Scriptures literally almost everything presented by men/women of the world becomes nothing more than rhetorical beguilement. To reject the teachings of the Savior and the Prophets then and now – in part or in whole is to decide there’s no need to know whether something is a fact or fiction dressed to look like a fact.

A fact or truth is hard language for those looking for peer acceptance – social viability – or worldly lusts, power or wealth. There’s nothing easy about truth – and truth yesterday – should still be truth today and forever. Yet we find men/women and the world change their facts (opinions) and truth (common beliefs) as changing clothes after a rainstorm or falling in the mud. They waiver on anything finite – and accept or reject on whether it fits them for the time and season of their mortal life’s. They’ll contend abuse, belittle and otherwise turn against someone teaching a real truth or fact. Since they cannot refute the truth they simply deny it and the messenger. They did this to a 14 year old boy throughout his life – while never disproving once what he saw and heard and then did. They did this to Paul and to many others – even stoning Jeremiah when he finished his teaching to them. The only difference today is the method and the names.

What is a fact? Interesting question – what I’ve presented above would get a failing grade in almost any institution of learning in the world today – but it is the answer I would give and stand behind. A fact is a truism – eternally.




“Truism”

cji
3/1/09

Giving no quarter
stepping not back
standing firm always
knowing what I know
sharing and giving
reservations none
for truth is truth
understandable
common sense
or in other words
simply a truism!

Copyright © 2009 – cji

Monday, February 23, 2009

"Thoughts on Martin Buber and I and Thou"


"Thoughts on Martin Buber and I and Thou"

cji
2/19/09

Over the years the ideas of Martin Buber have infiltrated much of Philosophy an all of the field of human intercourse or relationships. The translations have helped in some ways for understanding but with the translators added comments and textual changes much value is lost rather than added in their applying modern day to Buber’s day (the early 1900’s). With this in mind one needs to keep an open mind at what’s being read and said by those who are presenting Buber’s information.

With the advent of instant knowledge at one’s fingertips – skewed and biased from those who feel the need to control such knowledge harking back to the tradition of the schools, though seven millennium, there’s an air of authority to everything which is printed, viewed or spoken. People want to believe the worldly and thus justify their payment of allegiance to those of the world. In short anyone can be an expert on what someone else has said by just proclaiming the appropriate degrees and initials after their names. (Note: after 9/11/2001 a plethora of experts arose and wrote tons of books on Terrorism, etc.)

Therefore what is the purpose of one writing and one reading non-fiction? The writer is attempting to either self-explain to themselves or to others something they discern as part of the worldly and using the worldly language and guise of rhetoric and vague that leaves open for discussion what they’ve said without actually saying what’s said they said. Many then enter the fray after a book or article has been posted to dissect, analyze, critique, expound and otherwise add their two cents to what’s been written (some up the ante to much more than just two cents.) Authors have their reasons – some simply write for money and to appease the community of their peers. Others might write to meet a requirement for a professional recognition and in many cases change something which has been previously written with their slant. For the safety of the institution we’ll compromise with all of the above and say most write to convey or put on paper their own thinking on a subject.

(Note: as a writer of sorts I write because of what’s prompted and what I see and feel about me – caring nothing for the world or their acceptance of what I write except to try to uplift and present eternal truths. Altruistic comes to mind but it’s much more than that – yet it’s difficult to separate it and my goals. Over the years almost 50 now I’ve written prose, poetry, essays, newspaper columns, technical papers, talks, and answers to enquiring questions of others. In addition when I write it’s from years of pondering, research and continued research – primary source if available – and prayer. Study cannot be overlooked but one must choose carefully what to study – and this is the writer’s responsibility to those who might read what they’ve written. Much of what I write is ‘hard words’ for many – but this is my approach – 1) I’m not going molly-colly you and I won’t lie to you – and I won’t justify the wrongdoing or the worldly. Meaning is the most important along with understandability – there’s nothing written to confuse a reader – what I write is clear, concise and makes common sense. This is my responsibility as a writer – either for me or others.)

On the readers part they’re reading for one of three reasons: 1) it’s assigned to be read or needful in one’s pursuit of a degree or work place promotions; 2) reading for enjoyment or the joy of reading; or 3) reading to learn and assimilate that what’s good and further truth for their library of eternal knowledge. (Note: It would be this presenter’s guess that not many are reading for number 3 on the list.) And for the second on the list many do not venture into non-fiction for the pure joy of reading or for reading enjoyment.

(Note: as a reader (and I still read a lot – mostly non-fiction and some fiction for a change of pace) I read for interest and improvement to learn what I don’t know and need to know. My reading is directed towards those things in one plain where it deals with what I write on – i.e. terrorism and religious views and beliefs. I read the Scriptures daily and study them (meaning all of the Scripture – not just the Bible). I like L’Amour and Clancy – Clive Cussler (non-fiction) for pure enjoyment – but I also can discern a lot from these writers. When I did some graduate studies a professor asked what I thought was the most important thing to study about history – and I answered quickly the people themselves. For if one can understand a person from their own writings, letters, etc. and those about them – one can have a tad more insight as to why they did what they did.)

Therefore with most reading of non-fiction reason number one – i.e. assigned or for vocational pursuit this leaves the field closed and well fenced by those who run the institutions of higher learning and business, is the most important. There’s a trade-off with ones values and beliefs to attain the degrees of higher education or professional improvement. It’s finding the balance and understanding what may or may not be compromised. There’s books about that some institutions of higher learning and the business world feel are must reads – but within a personal value system they may be nothing more than trash. One always has to decide what price to pay – if any at all – which is always an option.

Now back to why one reads Martin Buber – which would be mostly business or educationally assigned. With this being the reason what should one expect to get out of such a reading as, “I and Thou?” First to study who Martin Buber was and what was about him at the time of his writings and this work published in 1923. This was in the aftermath of WWI and Germany (where he lived and worked) was in the throes of depression which the world would experience in the1930’s. Upheaval and heavy debt reigned in the nation – the loss of many of its young men in the war and the destruction of the infra-structure of both industry and government was not pleasant to be part and parcel of in any way – with the exception of those with power – either real or supposed. Some had this because of wealth – and others had this within the elite of the educational world.

Somehow with the coming and going of wars the infrastructure of the higher educational systems keeps on the same train on the same tracks and going in the same direction. One must remember in the ivory towers of education have spawned the anti-war – appeasement (at any cost) – and general isolation from the realities of real life or real problems. This situation still exists today and if the forerunner of nations on the brink of decline as a result of the insular teachings and lifestyles within these institutions. The inbreeding is part and parcel of education – in order to teach at the higher levels one must attain more and more degrees – and thus much of the outside world is numbed into unfeeling. As a result we find educational heroes and demagogues prolifically enshrined therein.

It would be like asking someone to enter into the environment of higher learning and give an absolute truth – which ran counter to all of the training and education of those present. Stoning comes to mind or the equivalent found today. Don’t rock the boat – get your degree and then you can go and do as you wish! In other words the absolute truth is not welcome within this environment – for to these institutions there’s no such thing unless they proclaim it to be so. This then is the environment of Martin Buber! It was one of closed and inbred rules and laws of beliefs and understandings. And as a result what he wrote was without understanding in many parts accepted. Even the Germans published it – to which he commented, “They must not have understood it,” (c.1933).

What did he write and why? My initial guess is that within his personal belief system which went through some major flux – he sought to put down a mathematical problem and solutions using words to describe the various relationships he saw about him and others. The idea of ‘I and Thou’ which has been changed by the translators (more recently) gives great definition to a belief of a God (or greater person) with whom we are attached. Using what’s he’s learned within the schools and books available to him he tried to define this relationship and then other relationships found within the worldly community of the five senses. In his approach and presentation he’s accomplished this quite well. Though to the reader much seems redundant or repetitive the need is for finite clarification within his mind and not theirs.

Thus to approach Buber’s book, “I and Thou” I’ve had to separate my beliefs and knowledge in my library and to look at his resources and beliefs. Then to ignore the ‘translator’s prejudice and notes’ finding the string Buber wanted us to follow and seeing what he was seeing. (Note: To take the time to explain all of this now would be too consuming – but if this is further desired I’ll add this at a later date. Better I’ll refer the readers to Robert Wood’s work, “Martin Buber's Ontology: An Analysis of I and Thou,” 1969.) Suffice to understand what Buber was seeing and what his translator was seeing were not and are not the same. Maybe had Dag Hammarskjöld's finished his efforts there wouldn’t be this turmoil today.

Copyright © 2009 – cji

“I and Thou – and Negotiations”

“I and Thou – and Negotiations”
cji
2/19/09

How does one explain something which one has in-depth knowledge of both sides and yet others want to see a third view point? Martin Buber’s book takes the view of humans at the center of the virtual world around him – that he/she look out from inside of the themselves and thus see all else. Therefore he begins with the ‘I’ meaning the individual or the self. He then presents three arguments – ‘I and Thou’ – ‘I and You’ and ‘I and It.’ He neither likes nor sanctions the ‘I and It’ but recognizes the reality of there being an ‘It’ in relationships. Therefore he attempts to move the ‘It’ either into a ‘Thou’ or a ‘You’ as quickly as possible.

These relationships have great meaning to him and since 1923 a great variety of meanings to the worldly and those not so inclined. Yet how does one tie this book into the task of negotiations? This will be the attempt of this short essay to do so. Hereafter will follow both professional and personal experience in negotiations and the application of what Buber put forth in his book.

A negation must be somehow defined – as each of us might see this idea quite differently. One can think of the infamous line, “Make him a deal he can’t refuse!” to the more simple idea of a man and woman making the marriage covenant. Both are types of negotiations and for the result of finding a common meeting ground on an issue needing to be resolved by both parties. The changing of times has not diminished the importance of either the idea of negation by fear – incentives or out of attitude and love.

To my understanding a negation which much of the world considers is a non-personal inter-action between two sides (or more) to reach a professional agreement for the mutual benefit of both (or more) sides.

Firm Fixed Price Contracting – Company A needs a road built from c to d. Company K and Company Y are both road builders. After much pricing analysis – Company A puts out solicitation packages to Company’s K and Y – so they can bid on the building of the road. Some would term this as Firm Fixed Bid or a Fixed Price Contract negotiation. It’s relatively simple – both Company’s K and Y will submit bids to complete the work. When Company A receives the two bids – they compare it against their numbers and can choose to award to either company or to both or to neither. In the first instance if one of the two bids is approximate to Company A’s estimate – and the other is either too high or too low – they can make award (in private industry). However in the Government they must first eliminate the company with the ‘too low’ bid. This has to be done when a higher bid is going to get a contract in Firm Fixed Price bidding as the winning bid is published. Therefore there will be negotiation between the two companies and thus interactions between the representatives of both and possibly all three. This way of contracting work is the most prevalent in the world – we do it most every day when we walk into a store to buy something. In some stores with automatic checkouts even the interaction between a teller and customer has been eliminated. The idea being this is a business and not a social gathering. Even with this – if one is using credit they must interact with a store employee to verify they’re the credit card owner. These type interactions are negotiations! One is buying something from another – either in services or products – something will change hands in the form of currency and products or work done. The price has to acceptable to the buyer and the seller must keep his pricing competitive. Going to a gas station is a good example – since most cars can use any type of gasoline on the market – it becomes a choice of the buyer where to go and pay that places price. The negotiation is done with signs posting the various prices at the different gas stations. The inter-personal interaction in this type of contracting is minimal. In some cases the negotiator never sees or meets either side of the negotiation. A person in contracting gets an order from some department within their firm of business and looks for those who sell the product(s) needed – gets pricing and places the order. This can all be done with a paper trail (fax).

Cost Reimbursement Contracting – this type of contracting is done when a term of time or a long term contract with various deliveries and services are required. The system starts out the same – someone has a need to be filled and someone has to find and solicit the work or service to be done. A cost estimate is prepared a solicitation with the specifications of work to be done and then is sent to those who can fulfill the requirements of the solicitation. When the offers come in at the close of bidding – there’s questions and answers – for clarification – with amendments, etc. Eventually the various sides will sit down to negotiate a fair and reasonable price for the contractual needs. A contract may be awarded based on the meeting the needs of the solicitation in a fair and reasonable manner.

With the award of the a cost contract – invoices have to be submitted and reviewed before any payment can be made. The difference between this method and the Firm Fixed Price is that in the Firm Fixed Price all of the money is paid upon completion of the work or delivery of the product. In Cost Reimbursement the payment is made in installments as the work progresses. Thus the interaction between the vendor (seller) and the company (buyer) is ongoing and subject to changes. A good example if you’ve a delivery contract which requires lots of travel and the gas prices soar – then the vendor would come and ask for cost increase to the overall contract limitations – which the buyer would agree to – however – if the contract is awarded in peak gas prices and they lower – the buyer only has to meet the invoices submitted.

When people go to the movies and see smoke filled rooms with a person negotiating some major deal for the most part that’s all follywood. In my experience the over many years the only time you’ve a full room is when you’re explaining to someone why they lost a contract! Negotiation is a part of business in that sphere of industry – it’s a tool nothing more or less. One has to do their homework and then put the pieces together. Very few are very complex or once the homework has been done. The longest negotiation I was in was at a Government Course on Contracting – it had to last three days (this was the requirement) we had it settled in less than three hours but the instructor insisted (smile) so we lasted three days. In this negotiation I represented private industry and my best friend represented the government. We had a lot of fun – because it was only a ‘game’ but we both knew how to do our homework and we both knew what was going to be fair and reasonable.

However one thing did happen the longer the negotiation lasted – the more the flow went to the contractor – which really wasn’t all that fair. The reason being time increased doubt and doubt raises the prices beyond fair and reasonable. All of what I’ve described above is really nothing more than ‘I and It’ relationships – with the possible exception of the latter example. Why – because it’s a professional i.e. not a personal decision-making process. Both of the ‘I’s’ reflect what’s best for them – either their need or the businesses pricing. The ‘It’ becomes the other party in the sales process. We can make shopping personal and most all of us do – we like to be treated nicely at the checkout counter and enjoy using the same clerk if possible – however, it’s still only a buy-sell relationship in the terms of numbers and whether we get the product we wanted and the business stays in business.

In discretionary income businesses there’s much more inter-personal interacting than what’s been discussed above – we now move to the “I and You” relationship – we’ve become friends with those whom we interact with. We go to their business because we like their environment or customer service – they in turn know it’s how they treat their customers how long they’ll stay in business. This then is the type of negotiations most think of in the way of negotiations. This is personal – and thus one has to like the environment of the other they’re dealing with. The problem is that this type of negotiation process and the comfort of it make it attractive to take over the other types of negotiations. In fact many who are in the business of beguiling others trade on this. They know that they’re an ‘it’ cold and hard – but they want your ‘I’ to see them as a ‘you.’

A great example of this is the effort our two sons go to in protecting us as we age in entering into contracts. They repeatedly want us to inform them before we commit to buy or agree to pay someone for services. We’re at the age we want to consider all others as a ‘You’ – and thus fail to see them as an ‘it’. We forget the first and most important rule of negotiation – ‘It’s not personal – it’s business!’

Now we’ll address another intrigue which everyone who’s been in contracting any length of time encounters, repetitive interactions with a good friend. In variably you’ve more contact with some businesses than others – and thus you’ve an opportunity to become friends – first based on mutual respect and trust of the other and secondly – you both understand the difference between personal and business. At the end of my career in contracting I had numerous interactions with the General Manager of the Contractor on a multi-million dollar contract. We’re both retired military – both enjoy wild life photography and both could represent and come to a decision on contract modifications. We were sometimes called into negotiations because the contract specialist his and mine thought they were at impasse over things which we both could see as trivial and easily solvable. Let me first clarify – we both knew and understood every line item of the contract – we knew how much money was available – and we knew what could be done – what had to be done – and how to make the two one. This is not unusual in much of contracting – however, as stated many do not want to do their homework and it’s their side only that they can see. Usually we had to bring both specialists into his office (his and mine) and tell them what was going to happen and how to write it up! Funny as it seems they thought we’d told them to negotiate what we’d told them, really! We’d then remind them we both had contracting authority he for the contractor and me for the government.

Somewhere in the schools of higher learning – people are taught that they’re in competition with one another; i.e. I and It relationships – to the stronger go the rewards, etc. Darwin made a lot ground with this using the phrase “Natural Selection” which he changed to ‘Survival of the Fittest,” in his 1869 (or 5th edition). Herbert Spencer first coined this phase “Survival of the Fittest” in his book, “Principles of Biology,” 1864 - further combining economics with the theory of evolution and proclaimed them to be interrelated. And It’s my belief that Buber took great exception to this by the end of the19th Century. The dehumanization of individuals and applying the animalistic characteristics to them has added to the ultra competitiveness of today. Spencer who was both an economist and a philosopher enjoined the two in further justifying the elitism of his day. (Note: To better understand the tautology of ‘survival of the fittest’ - a study of the mines in England and Scotland of the middle 1800’s is necessary.)

Indeed the teachings of Darwin and Spencer dominated and still dominate the educational system of the world today. This rejection of a being known as God or Heavenly Father or the Creator is denied and cannot exist in the minds of men to accept the doctrine of ‘Survival of the Fittest.’ This doctrine removes a plan from creation and implants total chance. Evolution as presented by Darwin does not support this doctrine – even though it proclaims it as a truth (which it is not). To give an example all an organism needs to do it procreate to achieve survival. The institutions of higher learning – including the media, television, movies, documentaries, magazines and any who support these ideas of Darwin and Spencer combine to create the “I and It’ mindset. Buber presents an alternative view and thus can find application in our lives and inter-relationships with all others.

On a basketball court there’s often competition – this is not negotiation – and is only a sport! Even in football we find the same competition (some times) and it’s only a sport! The players, coaches all know each other – and some are great friends off of the field or court even when they compete with one another. There’s a respect for one’s abilities and the team effort going all out to win. Vince Lombardi said it best, “My teams never left the field a loser, sometimes the clock ran out with us on the short end of the score – but we left the field winners knowing we’d done our best,” (paraphrase). This inter-action Buber would see and call it, “I and You.” So in our lives we too should be able to see the “I and You” relationships with others.

Most of us will not sit down in an executive office and hammer out a good contract – mostly because it just doesn’t happen in real life. Many of the biggest deals in business have literally taken place on yachts or golf courses. Of course business schools could never teach this. They’d have no need to empathize MBA’s or the more learning the better you’ll be in business. (Note: when I taught business courses at the college level – I was amazed at what I had to re-teach from the student’s course in business principles.) The practical application of common sense – dissolves mystery and makes clear that which is pretty simple to begin with. Martin Buber saw this and in his writings tried to clarify it to his understandings.

He (Buber) taught we could all be good – to be respecters of others and to engage socially appropriately in all aspects of life. In negotiations we too need to do this. However in the best of circumstances it’s not always possible. Someone will always want to play the ‘jerk’ – or better, ‘agitator.’ Going back to the classroom where my best friend and I represented the opposite sides – there was at least one person on each side who just didn’t want to agree on anything. In these situations both my friend and I had to ‘trump’ them to put them and keep them in their places.

The “I and You” is most likely the most important part of our mortal life in dealing with others who we come into contact with on a daily basis. We try to make things as least stressful – and hopefully the other person will do the same. This is normal interaction between people and actually between animals! I’ve many photos of egrets and gators in the same place at the same time and the gator isn’t trying to eat everything in sight. Any nature movie one watches they’ll see animals in harmony with others – predators and their game. Man has taken the idea of 24/7 competition to be real when it’s only a theory long on rhetoric and short on truth.

The last part of “I and You” is the sacred relationship between a man and a woman – committed to love and marriage to become as the Scriptures say – “to become as one, like the Father and Son are one!” The world has sought to destroy this as with everything else – yet some men and some women understand the greater covenant of marriage and the family unity which can be forever and ever. Buber saw part of this but within his belief system he didn’t know how to carry it into forever. Which much discussion I’ve tried to call this “I and I’ (smile) indicating the man and women become one in thought, actions and beliefs. Neither loses their inherent individual ness – but both surrender some of their different ness in achieving harmony together. Thus believing in the Scriptures that they’ll be heirs together (if worthy) forever and ever.

And yes there’s negation in love – much negotiation – from the dating process till the wedding day – and then far more intensely afterwards. These negotiations are not only with your best friend but with your spouse and eternal companion to be! Harmony in negotiations here is the keyword and never competitiveness to be found. Both seeking resolution for the whole and striving to become one in understanding and loving, without guile in any way.

Society and the world have worked over time to change this relationship into one night engagements and till divorce do us part or better till death do us part. Making marriage a competitive institution and asking the question why anyone would want to become married and why have children. This is all selfish, which is the underlying theory of evolution and Spencer’s works.

‘Unselfishness or selflessness’ are the key ingredients of Martin Buber’s works – and thus why he titled it, “I and Thou.” The ‘I and Thou’ to Martin Buber were very important to him in raising human relationship to a higher plane of existence. He knew he had a relationship which he could not totally define and he knew this sacred relationship was to be sought among those who he knew. And also because in knowing there was someone greater – someone sacred it gave him a hope – which seemed unlikely in the Germany of the 1900’s of his time.

If ever we could attain an “I and Thou” relationship in our everyday relationships we’d find a peace and understanding within ourselves and others. In negotiations one might guess the relationship I had with the General Manager came close – we never argued or wasted each other’s time – we always found resolution – and yet at the same time maintained a professional relationship.

I’ll close with the classroom negotiation. When my friend and I got together for the first session – after some conversation – I offered to split the difference in his price and mine. We agreed – we were told we couldn’t agree. Everyone thought we were crazy to have agreed so quickly. After three day of so called negotiations we ended up with my price – the government lost several hundred thousand dollars. Yet nowhere did I beguile or misrepresent our side – but some of the more difficult team members on both side – raised so many different issues – the government side became convinced in our bid. Why did I offer to compromise – because I thought as a company we could do the work and absorb half of the risk involved and have a good working relationship with the government! In the end if I had to deal with any of those (with the exception of my friend) in the working of the contract an adversarial relationship would’ve been present. This is not what negations should achieve – fair and reasonable is the goal – always – professional and not personal. Oh in the real negotiation (this was an actual negotiation situation) the government and the contractor agreed to split the risk and therefore split the difference in the government estimate and the contractor bid!

One final thought on “I and Thou” – in the world there are some who treat every situation as ‘I and Thou’ – however with a twist. They expect us to look at them and treat them as the ‘Thou’ in the every relationship! Yet in return to them once this occurs – they treat us as an ‘I and it’ relationship. We become as nothing in their eyes and feelings (if they have any left) – simply something to be manipulated in any relationship which might occur. An example might be the wealthy within the Roman Civilization or Greek Civilizations long ago – or in some religions today – Congress or Government – Professors – Clergy – and every now and then one will find this in negotiations. Think of bright lights – razzle and dazzle – or something similar – it’s in their insincerity of approach and treatment of others – beginning to beguile and then once they the ‘I’ so treated – the ‘I’ in us becomes and ‘it’ to them. Throughout history these type people are called ‘demagogues’ and for some reason many of the ‘I’s’ want to be in this relationship – for it means they’ve no accountability or responsibility in the relationship as it’s all been transferred to the ‘Thou.’

Copyright © 2009 – cji

“Leadership or Management”

“Leadership or Management”
cji
2/23/09

Some can be very good leaders but so good as a manager – while others can manage but not lead. What’s the difference and what are the respective roles of each? Also can one both lead and manage equally well or poorly? For one to achieve an MBA one has to acknowledge that management is more important than leadership in business. Yet is this true?

Over the years we’ve had many leaders with no management skills at all and as a result they both recognized it and accept it as a fact! What would define the role of a good leader? Most simply it’s the ability to lead others in a time of great adversity forward towards the goal or objective without faltering. Had all factors been equal and one was to remove Wellington from the Battle of Waterloo – somewhere someone might still be fighting a Napoleon the 17th. But Wellington was there and did lead and Napoleon was defeated. Had anyone but Sir Winston Churchill been PM of Great Britain during WWII would the British have withstood Hitler? He was there and the British did withstand the assault by Germany.

The above two examples are good fodder for showing a difference between leadership and management. Management got England into WWII – and leadership got it out and mostly intact. After WWII management again took over and we’ve seen the repeated results of what’s happened since. Let’s understand Eisenhower was a great manager – and became a hero to many – even President of the US – however he knew his limitations and with General’s like Bradley, Hodge, Patten and many others he knew where the leadership on the battlefield lay.

A good manager can organize – draw up plans – be political between two sides of an organization – and see the organization as a whole and in its parts. All pen/ink and paper – he knows how it supposed to work and why – but also knows he needs others for the how it will work and why. A really good manager knows how to stay off stage and manage the operation – while letting others work within the operation. I.e. a hospital manager (administrator) is not a doctor but recruits doctors and nurses to operate the hospital – he/she insures that the right and best equipment is available and whatever is needed in the care of patients (and employees).

Whereas a manager is organizational – a leader is situational. A leader would wear out if on the constant stage of leadership in an active form therefore in situations the leader rises to the top and then returns to his/her role in the organization once more. A manager however is constantly going because it’s his/her role to keep the show going. Washington would be a good example of a leader in this instance – when he was needed by his nation he was there – when not he was back at home. However the John Adams and others were still at work in the kitchen for the duration of their lives.

When one goes home at night both roles mightily intermixed within a family – but seldom to the degree on the battlefields of the world. However equally if not more important! Management of a family and a home is intrinsic to the success of both – and leadership (the example) is also important – to the raising of healthy children and promoting a loving family relationship by all.

A leader sees solutions and proceeds – a manager sees problems – seeks assistance to come up with the correct solutions and proceeds. Managers have limited power to act or control – while leaders take or are given power to act and control.

When a ship sets sail from dock – when the last line is released from the mooring – the Captain has absolute power and control – no longer is management involved. A Captain is both given and takes this power and control – it’s a leadership requirement. However here’s the catch – the power is his/hers whether qualified or not – whether a good leader or not! Some Captains have the total respect of their officers and crews – having both been there and done that with him/her before. They’ve weather the storm and know how to weather the next storm as well. Some Captains have the total abhorrence of their officers and crew – ruling over them almost maliciously. This has been found throughout history – written about in novels and non-fiction. The best found lore of WWII abounds in the ranks of the submariner Captains.

Now and again a Captain is placed on a ship and will run it as a manager knowing no other way. Without storms or combat the ships make their journey from port to port without incident. And this is almost the norm in peacetime – the managers run the whole show all of the time – to the point that leaders and leadership are forgotten all about and found unnecessary. The role of the manager goes outside of its organizational limitations and assumes responsibility it has not earned. The schools are good at teaching this to their students in a relatively safe environment.

The equation is money equals power and power equals leadership – etc. This is a false equation but while it’s used and believed many good leaders are buried as if at sea never again to be seen or heard from. The current evidence within the economy of the US is an excellent example of this taking place. We’ve incompetence by those making the laws – those enforcing the laws and those taking advantage of the loop holes in the laws. Laws passed to make the playing field level for those without income – without work – without any viable means of support (with the sole exception of the government) given homes and mortgages which no one expected them ever to pay. Thus forcing the banks and mortgage companies to lend the money (or else). The same government now blames someone else for these horrible situations were in – and never themselves! This is management gone berserk without any consideration for those willing to work and pay their own – instead making those who work not only pay their own way – but everyone else’s as well.

The leadership of the nation was burned at the stake and still is by the media and those who scream ‘it’s not our fault!” No one is willing to take up the lead and get things back on track – and those who’ve claimed this right are only digging the problem deeper. Management as a role and unity has lost sight of their role in keeping the show going and leadership is nowhere to be found having been burned in the witch hunts of the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and the first part of this century.

The silence of the media/press to the voices of truth has by apathy removed them from the stage. The political revolution of total government has removed the need for leadership of any kind – and for the most part management as well. Doing what feels good for the moment seems to be the plan of action found in Washington and campuses of the nation. This is neither an acceptable definition of management or leadership – but more of that of a fool!

Yet when a society chooses to change the definition of words and roles – it messes with the very fabric of the heart and soul of its nation!

A manager would and could say, “Here’s the problem – here’s some possible solutions – which works best for the whole?” He/she would then weigh the various options – making sure the system can withstand the solutions suggested – and then takes the solutions to higher management for approval.

A leader says, “Is what I’m doing re-teachable and is it what I would want others to do?” And with understanding – says, “Follow me, here’s what we’re going to do and how!”

Again to repeat a manager’s role is organizational – and a leader is situational. A manger would fit out the ship and crew – picking the best possible captain for the ship and let it sail! The captain would then utilize the ship and crew for the best possible results – of both situation and crew while sailing!


Copyright © 2009 – cji

Sunday, February 22, 2009

“Bad/Evil – Deceit = Good – Truth”

“Bad/Evil – Deceit = Good – Truth”
cji 2/22/09


We must understand fully what’s going on in today’s world (and has been for quite some time – only accelerated in our time) between good and evil! What's changed is the definition of 'bad/evil - deceit' and it was deliberate in replacing ‘good and truth’! Some even many will say this was not deliberate but is a natural happening with the wisdom of men and greater intelligence growing, that the need for moral or value or even commandments of behavior were/are no longer necessary.

Rappers made the word 'bad' the equivalent of good in their sounds as have the balladeers of the last 1500 years. The movement even led by monks into bringing ribald verses and wording into the written and oral words of their and now ours vocabulary and acceptance. There’s the oft told story of dropping a frog into hot water and it’ll hop right out again – yet if you slowly heat the water around him – he’ll stay in the water and die. This is as true of numbing the senses of mankind – and creating an unfeeling and unloving selfish population of radical extremes of hatred and abuses. It’s the seductive introduction which allows this evolution to take place – i.e. removing the understanding of being a child of God with a royal and eternal birthright – to one of evolving from the beasts of the field by pure chance.

Man in their constant looking for excuses and justifications of their excesses and abuses – turning to both the pulpit and the schools for their lifestyles. When one pays someone to preach to them – the preacher better provide what they want to hear. When one decides what is right and wrong they want someone teaching the same ideas. When they want little understanding they command and receive confusion taught – without any whites or blacks – truths or untruths – rights or wrongs. They received what they wanted and in return elevated those in their employ – with titles of Doctor or Professor, etc. Honors and tributes of their peers and adulation from their non-employee followers – i.e. all that they world had was theirs to feast upon, all they had to do was ask. The Greeks taught this in their schools for thousands of years – in the idea, “Give the people what they want – and they will give you what you want,” (paraphrase). Out of this comes what was known as ‘rhetoric’ (or tautology).

In fact what we’ve found are all of the aspects for an almost perfect crime and yet mankind wallows in their ignorance rather to admit a crime has been perpetrated upon them and all humanity. “A perfect crime is a crime committed with sufficient planning and skill that no evidence is apparent, and the culprit cannot be traced. The term can also refer to a crime that remains undetected after commission, or sufficiently unsubstantiated to prevent active investigation, so that nobody knows conclusively if the crime has in fact been committed,” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_crime). Those committing the crime are convinced by their circular reasoning and quoting each other – writing the textbooks – approving the lesson plans – issuing the degrees and paying for the services of those who validate their beliefs unto others. One could see this in the Monopolists of the late 1800’s and early 1900’s in having the schools teach their brand of economics and then going so far as to get one of their stooges elected President of the US. Other places of more importance is found in the daily media – which passes for ‘news’ and in fact is nothing more than a ‘party line.’ One must think of the movie, “Bye, Bye Birdie” which took a rock star almost to the White House.

Indeed the hoax being put upon people of all walks of life come from both the innocent (at least to begin with) to those knowingly violating the trust given to them in their various offices of responsibility. The innocent who get wrapped up in a good cause – or because of knowing that they’re too smart to be fooled, etc. and the others from knowing what they’re doing isn’t right – but to not do it would be to be cast out and no longer to find the social or peer acceptance of those around them. To be good, honest, etc. is to be a stranger in this world today! It’s been said, “The price of integrity is to live in isolation and to be ostracized by the world.” One would hope more would like to be found as such rather than embraced by the world of deceptions and confusions. Yet this is not the case – for gray is the prevalent color of worldly knowledge and so many preaching the same things can’t all be wrong –but yet they can and are!

Let’s give an example of this – you’ve the formula given to you for the perfect health drug. There’re found all sorts of recommendations and personal testimonies of this drug. The medical journals and laboratory tests abound with the praises of this drug. It’s found to be the greatest thing since the M&M Peanut. Not only all of this but it’s affordable for you to own and use. Thus you use the drug – and nothing happens – nothing at all that you can see on the surface. So you stop using it – and it sits on the shelf. Several years later you develop an incurable disease and you die well before your normal life expectancy. The hospital and the police rule illness as the cause of death. In the meantime this same occurrence is happening all over the world – and CDC gets involved. Ultimately they are able to link it back to the pill bottle you put on the shelf years ago. The business long ago went out of business – the medical editors and testers nowhere to be found – yet they were all absolute in their testimony of this drug and you now are dead! All over the world there’s a hue and cry – and no one to blame! For all were correct in their tests – the unknowns of the drug were latent and could not be known.

Similarly no one is found suing the media, television or advertisers over diseases caused by smoking – only the companies producing the ‘smokes’ and they’ve warned people up front of the dangers. One sues the manufactures of guns and not the parent(s) who raised the person who used the gun in the commission of a crime. The world has established it’s own rules of determination and none of it for the most part falls on the person who indeed is at fault themselves. I.E. the person at McDonalds who tries to drink the coffee while doing something else – spills it and gets burned.

The stupidities of the laws of men sometimes are overwhelming but are they really? The appearance is that they are – but yet if one wants to disenfranchise and remove accountability and responsibility from the population – thus keeping it all for them – this is a rationale act deliberately done to centralize their overall control of the society. Instead of teaching accountability and responsibility they portray these as unneeded and controls of another. They change another definition – i.e. agency from one meaning the right to choose ‘good’ and to be obedient to the Commandments of God – to that of one can go and do whatever they want and don’t get caught.

It’s the getting caught doing something wrong which causes problems and then they’ve their judges in place to override any law which might’ve been broken. Lawyers make big money in getting known criminals set free from known crimes. The murderer of LBJ’s sister’s boyfriend was let off with a suspended sentence while being caught red-handed. One need only to wonder at what else is happening – today we’ve men and women serving in our government who it they were us – would be in prison or at least jail. Some of their crimes include but are not limited to: wrongful death – bribery – income tax evasion – writing their own laws and pays raises – pension funds and filling the pork barrels of those who own them and their votes. If one remembers correctly the US stopped being a Republican Form of government with the direct election of Senators in approximately 1913. Thus all political offices are brought and paid for by someone, whether legal or illegal.

Each of the above continues to numb and deny feelings to those who seek public approval and peer acceptance. All are indeed planned and executed by someone whose selfish interest overrides any of the public good while proclaiming it’s all for the public good. Denying feelings is the one sure way to enjoy excesses either by one or the many. It’s to be without conscience in one’s actions or deeds and certainly without any responsibility or accountability. It’s the one sure way to deny absolute truth and good – allowing instead ‘bad/evil and deceit to take their place as only being a value judgment and nothing more from and onlooker who’s meddling in their affairs.

To shift some and look at the subtle changes in our own society from strict (if ever the case) to permissiveness. We went from G movies to X movies - now there's seldom a PG movie available - but they're rated G - while 30 years ago they would've been an R. In government and other areas dominated by the creeds of business and the slime of corruption one defines sex in the White House as excusable but he should've kept it quiet! There's no mention of the 'Thou Shalt Not!' only that many thought 'Wow' - he did it because he could! The music (if one can call it that) is filled with lyrics which leave no doubt to the intent or meaning - whereas 50 years ago only Atlantic Records went so far - but they got away with it. Even in their documentary the executive of Atlantic Records discuss this new venue they found to exploit.

Parents are less likely to monitor the music or what they’re children watch – using the same excuse to them selves as they used on their parents in similar conditions years before. Also with the advent of the cell phone – photos are now more revealing (until caught) and conversations which might’ve taken place on the home phone are now without any oversight. The dispersion of birth control devices and education – the immorality of the educators (not many but some) – the looseness of the clothing, etc. have all led to denying feelings in exchange for social acceptance. Language abuses in public make it unwelcome for some customers to entitle the others the right of free speech even if it’s offensive. People openly discuss their personal lives – sexual activities and comments of those around them in this exercise of free speech. And again the parent(s) have abdicated their responsibility and accountability to others than themselves in the era of good feeling and being a friend of their children and not a parent.

Finally the idea of ‘bad/evil – deceit = good – truth’ one has to understand one has to dehumanize and relate most all to things – i.e. property – chattel – toys – trophy’s – prizes – scores, etc. Darwin and Spencer went a long way in giving this behavior acceptability – and the schools and pulpits have only increased this acceptance. In denying truth (common sense) and accepting confusion – unknowns – many instead of one – the rules found in society would shame field mice in this behavior. In the movie “Hook” – a key line is given in a joke, “You know what the difference is between a lab rat and an attorney? There are some things even a lab rat won’t do.” This is the condition that man/woman have directed the worldly to accept without any exceptions. Personal pride – personal selfishness – personal self-fulfillment –personal acceptance – and personal power all equate to the person of today in a modern society.

Thus one needs to be proud of the worldly! To be proud one has to understand that we're talking of things - which will eventually go away - with the media exposure - one would guess if they can destroy Mitt Romney they can destroy most anything of value till all are as swine in the mud pit. People have allowed their senses to be numbed - nothing surprises them anymore -- i.e. the two teenagers out of their homes and one found dead at 3:30AM the other unconscious - where were the parents? And how were these girls raised up?

When the people abdicate responsibility and accountability - the mud permeates the whole - thus all looks equally bad -and what's good is used as an example of extremism. Too many seek too much with too little. One can have 5,000 swine marching in order - but what's the point? Yet we find millions doing much the same - so as to be in with peers and with the 'change' of the moment. As one violates the eternal laws one gives up much more than they'll ever receive - to isolate truth from things is much the same. Men and women have always been carnal in their human nature - however it's through self-discipline that one controls their lusts and passions - when there's not longer a teaching of self-discipline and one looks to the world for the music to march to - then indeed they've become what Darwin and Spencer wanted them to become - nothing more than animals. When a human being becomes nothing more than an animal - those in power will gain more and more control of them - it's just a matter of breaking them to the plow. What governments and media cannot do - Madison Ave will do for them.

The acceptance of ‘bad/evil – deceit = good – truth’ requires an adoptive behavior – to deny one is in reality a child of God – with a royal birthright – denies all of God and his Commandments for our well being – and thus denies feelings and self worth. I’ve left out the need to be in the service of others – i.e. James 1:27 (and many other scriptures) – which is such service one seeks not to elevate themselves but to elevate all around them. To love one’s neighbor is a commandment – for one can help his/her neighbor – yet the world has changed this to read, “Love the world” for one cannot comprehending helping the world so they leave it to others.

Someday the ‘Thou Shalt Nots” will be found to be the criteria of our final judgments. Those Prophets then and now will be at the Bar of Judgment and will witnesses against us for denying God and accepting the worldly. Those who chose the confusion of the world will be found without excuse or justification – for man/woman inherently know of the confusion and the lack of common sense if they but read what’s readily available to them in the scriptures. Those who stand in isolation to the worldly will have testified to their friends but to know apparent avail – and will only be able to stand aside and weep for their friends and associates.

The sorrow will be found magnified because to accept truth is so much easier to do – than to accept the rhetorical creeds of the world. And thus in the Scriptures it talks of the God the Father or the Savior weeping – it’s because of those children who choose to follow Satan rather than them. Don’t get me wrong – there are three degrees of being saved – but only one (1) is to return into the presence of the Father and the Son and with our families eternal forever and ever. The other two (2) degrees will be saved – yes – but not able to procreate and be in the presence of the Father and the Son. And of course there will be outer darkness for those who deny the Holy Ghost (i.e. deny the promptings of the Spirit or without feelings) and/or commit murder which is the shedding of innocent blood.

We each must remember who we are and why we’ve come to this earth. It’s not just a chance happening – or a mistake in the laws of nature – but a mission we only can fulfill – and this requires full obedience to the Commandments, Laws and Statutes of Heavenly Father and His Son – Jesus Christ our Savior. Satan doesn’t care whether we’re partially obedient – keeping 3 – 4 and 8; just as long as we don’t keep them all – all of the time. He doesn’t care we profess a belief in Jesus Christ as long we don’t believe his living Prophets now or then. He doesn’t care if we attend churches of the world as long as we don’t attend the Saviors church in these latter days. He doesn’t care if justify or talk badly about him (Satan) even if we deny he exists – as long as we do the same about the Savior in our talk or our actions in denying truths and common sense. We must remember Satan employs those who don’t teach the ‘whole truth’ but instead mix the gospel with the creeds of men – to beguile any and all into a feeling of ‘all is well’ and ‘I’m saved’ – as long as they don’t believe in a living Prophet and the Restored Church today!

Over time ‘bad/evil – deceit = good – truth’ only with the worldly! Those who really understand that these will never be equal must accept peer approval and worldly acceptance – thus the scripture found in Doctrine and Covenants 121: 34-40:
“34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?
35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson—
36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.
38 Behold, ere he is aware, he is left unto himself, to kick against the pricks, to persecute the saints, and to fight against God.
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen.”

Which side will we be found residing – for one cannot straddle the line (as the world teaches) – for to do so is to have made your decision! You can either be on the Lord’s side or you’re not! If not then you’ve made your decision to choose the wisdom of the world over that of the Father and the Son. It’s simple stuff – not complicated – common sense – and to deny this is an adoptive choice and not one of your original birth right. Yes once more all will be saved – this was the reason of the Sacrifice of the Son on the cross to do away with the death of the spirit (and thus the individual) it was done for all of us (with the two exceptions – denying the Holy Spirit of Revelation and shedding of innocent blood). But being just saved is not the purpose of the Plan of Salvation – eternal life and exaltation is clearly defined as our greatest goal in mortality – to be resurrected with a physical body of flesh and bone and become one with the Father and the Son and our families if found worthy.

Thus I leave with each of you, “Joshua. 24: 15.
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

Wednesday, February 4, 2009

“What is a Fact?” cji 2/4/09

“What is a Fact?” cji 2/4/09

There are at least three kinds of facts: 1) a real fact which is both truth and proven; 2) a rhetorical fact where everyone seems happy with the presentation and won’t ask any questions; and 3) something with out any relationship to 1 and 2! Yes this is a wise crack type answer to be sure – but it would be my guess that a fact is what someone wants to believe to be true – without reservation and without often much proof.

What is a fact? Pondering this when doing research I’ve often wondered who’s done their homework and how much effort was put forth in their presentation. A fact should be a discernable piece of information related to the subject at hand with several references and no disputable credibility.

This would preclude anything which can be reputed and not hold up under close inspection of one or many needing to use the information without prejudice. Most non-facts don’t really make much sense when applied to a situation of real life. Too many are so busy creating facts that they feel the numbers will override the truth.

Hitler did this in his ranting and raving in repetitious manner to get many to believe his lies as facts. Many believed him because they wanted to believe him – for in doing so there was a supposed gain in the future (or present) for them. Some would consider not being shot as a gain. This would be true in many 3rd world countries where to believe the majority is to live and anything else is death or worse than death. The majority being those in power and nothing else then mattered. It could be said it was very easy to believe St. Augustine as the alternative was to be put to death for believing in the early Christian beliefs as taught by the Savior, his Apostles and the Prophets.

Many use written texts as being factual because; they were published, others reference them, and it just must be true (why would the author lie). In actuality many authors and publishers have gotten slack or have a stick to burn when writing and publishing. In 1834 a book was published entitled, “Mormonism Exposed” which was as virulent book as has been published against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Joseph Smith, Jr. This book and another 1500-4000 like it are still in publication even though the entire original has been discovered to be untrue and based on hatred rather than facts. One could argue that the authors believed what they wrote but even this has been disproved. Yet even today ‘scholars’ quote from these books to discredit the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. However any person with a minimal amount of common sense can see through the lies and observe for themselves what is truth and what is a lie.

This issue of common sense brings up a critical point of accepting a lie as a fact – for many will not use common sense and almost all of the critics (the worst being those who’ve apostates from the Church) justify and resolve on their decisions without wanting to know the truth. Contention and hatred are the tools of those who seek to dismiss anything based on hearsay, lies or conjecture. When one has been filled with bad information and has come to believe that they couldn’t have been lied to – then no longer will they hear or care about any ‘real facts’ which will or could help them understand.

As an example I’ve a very good friend who’s deeply involved in his/her church – which teaches multiple sermons about my church and that I’m going straight to hell and I’m riding a bobsled in the process. When one of his/her granddaughters said this was what she was taught – in Sunday School – she was reminded that one should not and could not judge another for what awaited them in eternity. How many like this young girl heard the same lesson and has no one to correct her or to help her understand beyond the preacher? Sadly as in this example and many others history is replete with prejudice and hatred preached by decent men and women to their ‘flocks’ without anyone questioning or doing their own research on the subject.

Facts are what can convict a person of a crime – if they’re there – and the evidence is good and proven to be true. Yet many innocent people go to jail or prison because someone doctored the facts and the evidence. Even some who’re guilty beyond a reasonable doubt may be let free because of the corruptness of the processes, the attorneys or the judges. Our modern day politicians are living proof of this slanting of the facts and laws (which they help write) till we’ve all been lied to and told it’s the truth.

Sometimes a fact becomes a fact by ignorance of those presenting the information. Something is presented and no one takes the time to see if it’s really true or not. An example would be, ‘that the only good snake is a dead snake.’ This is taking all snakes everywhere and declaring them to be bad! This just isn’t true – but you’ll find a lot of people today who would disagree and declare unequivocally that there’s no good snake. One may not like snakes (I don’t) but they know that the snake serves a purpose in nature of this world.

One should be able to test a fact to find for them self if the information they’ve been given is true or not. (When referring to ‘one’ in this instance I’m referring to a person above the age of accountability and able to research out the fact.) There are both tangible and intangible facts – and both can be discerned – if one is willing to put aside prejudice and hatred or any other impediment to finding the correct answer. Let’s understand that one researching on their own is not easy – and in some cases it’s time consuming. However in critical matters one should not just have to rely on another for their person or being.

Facts additionally are drawn from our experiences – good or bad – biased or unbiased – yet we owe to ourselves to be objective in observation and when something doesn’t feel right it most likely isn’t. This requires one must still have the ability to feel and not be beyond feeling. If one does a review of the scriptures they’ll find references to people who’ve become ‘past feeling’ as is found in 1 Nephi Chapter 17 verse 45:
“1 Nephi 17:45: Ye are swift to do iniquity but slow to remember the Lord your God. Ye have seen an angel, and he spake unto you; yea, ye have heard his voice from time to time; and he hath spoken unto you in a still small voice, but ye were past feeling, that ye could not feel his words; wherefore, he has spoken unto you like unto the voice of thunder, which did cause the earth to shake as if it were to divide asunder.”
And Ephesians Chapter 4 verse 19: “Eph. 4: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.”

Thus in each life one has to decide for themselves to accept the word of another on things of vital importance to themselves and their families – or to do their homework and learn for themselves! One cannot stop when they ascertain that they need to look no farther especially if their sources are repetitive or circular – facts cannot be proven by this type of research. One must fully look keeping an open mind in all things – of value, virtue and worth. This excludes most of the ‘things’ of the world as the deception and selling by TV, movies, Madison Ave. and anyone trying to beguile another into supporting their lifestyle will never prove to be an actual fact – beyond the belief system of the beguiler.

Lying and deceit have so convoluted the truth and altered the facts that many have given up – and in joining the world seek no more after truthful facts. What they have given them by the world is sufficient for them. In reality ‘facts’ are the tools of men to the convincing of another to hate one and contend with another – or to be considered ‘strange’ and unwelcome into their world.

Heavenly Father doesn’t use facts (although there’s more than enough to support him) as men to prove of his truth or that of his Son – he speaks to his children and they hear his voice – simple stuff really. Yet many prefer the books like the one referenced above – without merit except to the worldly and without truth except to the prejudices of its readers and supporters.

A child understands a fact – the stove is hot – if I touch it I’ll be burned – my mother taught me this and I’ll believe my mother and not be tempted. How many have mothers (or fathers) who teach them correct principles and love them enough to help them to discern truth from a lie – a fact from a non-fact? This is the dilemma of answering the question, “what is a fact’ and more importantly to understand why it is or isn’t.

(Added reading might be found: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/hel/7)

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

"Wondering Within"

"Wondering Within"
cji
2/4/09
Climbing small peaks
yet measured not all
for what's seen unseen
finds me wondering oft
of the depth of spirit
contained within self
shared with another
as a oneness complete
and then I stare wide
wondering within self
if worthy of such love!



Copyright © 2009 – cji

“Why are theories important to individuals?” 2/3/2009

“Why are theories important to individuals?”
In 1 Cor.19-22 we read; 20 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
Really one shouldn’t need anymore to know why theories are important to individuals! But the worldly require more and sometimes so do those not of the world. However the worldly only read to seek to disprove anything written against them and their ways – while the ‘choir’ read to understand and yet gain more knowledge.
A friend of mine had to make an important presentation – it was on a sacred topic and others would be there to present who not only didn’t believe as he did but they scorned his beliefs. Prior to the presentation each presenter had to exchange what their comments would be in the first draft. In this way one would know what the other would be presenting. Now if you can follow this – he was the only one presenting as he believed and even though the beliefs of the others varied they were all similar to one another and all combined to scorn his beliefs.
In assisting my friend – I asked if wanted to speak to deaf or unhearing ears? He said of course not in his quick reply. Therefore I suggested that he speak to neither of the other presenter’s material but to speak only to the audience without once addressing the comments found in the first draft of the others. In a worldly perspective this is most difficult to do and most are so tempted to address what they know will soon be said by another. He did agree as I suggested as I additionally pointed out where this had been done successfully before many times and when not done and should’ve been done the results was as expected.
Here then is the catch – and addresses the question found in the above title – my friend was presenting from known, proven fact – not theory – while the others were speaking from only theory passed down to them in the higher schools of learning and their individual restricted prejudices! They were restricted in their presentation to the theories of others passed alone as quasi factual information but without either foundation or merit in the eyes of Heavenly Father and therefore only in the eyes of the world.
In conclusion to the example of my friend he did wonderfully well – the others in their presentations showed they had not listened to him one whit! They went their party line presenting nothing new and nothing to substantiate what the topic of the meeting was about. The audience could tell the difference – with some actually hearing and others like the other two presenters not wanting to hear what my friend had to say. Yet in the end – new ears had heard – and some will take action on what they heard and this was the goal of the presentation.
In the importance of theories to individuals is that most individuals live in the theories as if they are already proven fact and not changeable or correctable! Recently I’ve had to read some books on a normal day I would’ve never ventured to even review. The material being presented wasn’t being presented as a theory but as the final answer to the question of which the author presumed everyone had asked and wanted to know.
In seeking to find out why I found the book so objectionable it finally dawned on me that the theory being presented as the final answer was incomplete and not entirely open ended. The author using a great wealth of wordiness was placing great limitation of other men/women and even greater limitations on Heavenly Father. Thus in offering great justifications to men/women (and one would surmise the beasts of the field) his work has become a classic in its field of stuffy.
It’s interesting to note even the translator of the work found it difficult to understand and thus made it even more difficult by changing the essence and meaning of the title. Yet this was both of the author and the translator’s common theory in all of human behavior in their studies and teachings. And thus the theorist continues to confound not only themselves but those who become their disciples.
Most of the worldly theories are still just theories and in many cases most in the world don’t even know what they are! The inner circle of the elite educated has always placed itself on a pedestal decrying the ineptitude of the masses. The American Constitution was supposed to rid some of this – but in the end the elite wealthy have deemed it their right to rule and make laws. In theory the Constitution was one of the greatest documents ever written by a group of men in one place at one time. However the question always came down to how could it work? Those who followed the Founding Father’s decided it couldn’t work and have two centuries working to change it or do away with it altogether; after all it’s just a theory of how government should work is their combined echo. Now a seat in public office has a price tag – and if you’re not willing to pay you cannot get in!
Education is at great fault in the presentation of theories because of the rash bias against morals, virtues, common sense and truth. The common thought of most students is, ‘garbage in – garbage out’ and knowing they’ve to give back to the professor/teacher/instructor what’s been given to them without argument. Soon as trained mice these students will enter into the worldly and do the same with those they’ve responsibility for – all such a waste of unlimited potential.
Theories and the study of them give justifications to the weaknesses and apathy of the world. Instead of seeking the higher truth or greater light which each human has the ability to do – theories keep as their intent humans confused and in contention one with another. The book referenced above on human behavior and relationship between two or more human beings, never once deals with a ‘oneness’ which is the bedrock teaching of the Scriptures and Gospel of Jesus Christ. In opposition to this idea of ‘oneness’ the author denies even the possibility of the most common thought taught by the Savior, “Gen. 2: 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” “Doctrine and Covenants 35:2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world, even as many as will believe on my name, that they may become the sons of God, even one in me as I am one in the Father, as the Father is one in me, that we may be one. (See also 3 Nephi 28:10.)”
The theories of men become overly important as they seek at all times from offending anyone with common sense or truth. They hint at truth and say its truth but ultimately when one denies all or some of the facts it cannot be truth! The forced study and sometimes willingly creates an aura of importance which elevates one to a worldly higher plain. While in effect accomplishing nothing towards the resolution of what someone – somewhere put forth as a theory.
Much of my contemplation is being done with the idea of worldly and grand theories – not the subject specific theories in finite roots. These finite theories are usually resolved out of the light of the day and gain little public notice. It’s the grander ones which make money – sell text books – create positions of false teachers – teaching false doctrines (theories) as truth. They rely on a passive audience numbed by rhetoric and charisma which would rather avoid a bump in the road than to remove it.
Man rejects simple answers seeking instead for theories to define ‘reason’ to their own ends and not for the good of all. They’ll say it’s for the good of all but in reality confusion and contention cannot be good for anyone except one seeking to gain from others expense. Thus we’ve why theories have become a great study and end in themselves and therefore important.

Monday, February 2, 2009

“What is Theory?”

“What is Theory?”

Without going to the dictionary one would guess that a ‘theory’ is a worldly truth looking for proof by the world. It matters not even if there aren’t any facts to be found – just that the idea which developed the ‘theory’ is alive and well. With time and circular footnotes – one can finally become comfortable with the theory being an actual truth or fact. Thus when one starts with this definition of a ‘theory’ one can easily understand the guile which the works to justify itself in any field or area – either in belief or tangible things.

Here follows a dictionary definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory)
1.
a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.

2.
a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

3.
Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory.

4.
the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice: music theory.

5.
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.

6.
contemplation or speculation.

7.
guess or conjecture.
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One must enjoy the first definition in the use of Einstein whose own research was ever ongoing and even today is still being challenged by some. Einstein developed his idea in a letter to a friend in 1905 – and it wasn’t until the lunar eclipse in 1919 that much of it was substantiated to himself – while the world had jumped on it with great glee.

Many of the worldly theories give justification to contrary practices or beliefs. They justify animal like behavior among men/women at the expense of those less fortunate. The Theory of Evolution is most likely the world’s bright shining star of all theories declared true without evidence to support it. Even Darwin in his own writings said it was not proven but might be someday in the future – well the world is still waiting yet the theory is a practicing religion for many in the world today – with disciples and adherents around the world. So much so that many worldly religions (those started by men/women without authority), feel inclined to ratify it – while still proclaiming their belief in an incomprehensible God of the scriptures.

Shortly after the Theory of Evolution hit the streets – the idea of Survival of the Fittest joined into the chorus – and anyone who studies history can see the slavery of The British Isles and beyond throughout the 1800’s and into the 1900’s. In many parts of the civilized world (this is a very risky identifier) many live in abject suffrage to their clerics and governments – as well as to the oligarchy which controls them and their economy (lifestyle).

Theories are used as excuse for the world – they are not just ideas or thoughts but rationales to explain what the world cannot sort and place in its card catalog. One would venture that many theories are guesswork and pure speculation. Wherein anything one wants to be true follows the Greeks of old and implies rhetoric is the only truth – giving people what they want to hear, know and believe as truth (without any or very little truth involved).

Theories and Theorems are interrelated and one in the same is pure foolishness and shows someone without any lights turned on in their thinking or the acceptance of another’s thinking. A theorem is finite to the world of mathematics and numbers. A theory is vague and without a finite definition, which is why it’s called a theory and not a truth or fact.

Liking the idea of Music or Art Theory – one can discuss various aspect of what they like or dislike by either listening, playing, seeing or drawing a finite piece. It’s discussion without conclusion – i.e. Leonard Bernstein did a six-part lecture series at Harvard which in it’s most pure form is Music Theory. He presented to his class a myriad of perspectives on the enjoyment of music.

In addition one could consider the teaching of athletic skills a particular theory of the one doing the teaching. What would work for one might not work for another – so each have to take from the teacher what works best for them! In my life I’ve theories on swimming – coaching – participating in many areas of sports – yet they’re my theories only – and they have application in my life but not in everyone’s life. They might be good theories – well defined and supported – but still with all of the changes which continue to take place they are not the final, ultimate truths.

Theories are a beginning to explore – without restraints or mindless boundaries – it’s what my mind can comprehend and then start to deal with to organize into something which allows me to ask questions and seek their answers. However it’s also been my understanding (smile – theory) that one must not get caught up in figuring out the end result without prayer and effort to discern truth.

Since most think of religions as purely theory or speculation – St. Augustine and others paved the way for this by mixing Greek Philosophy with the Scriptures and produced intellectual acceptable answers (which in many cases was nothing more than confusion and contention). These theories and teaching became more gospel than the Scriptures actually displacing them – even the break away of what is called the Age of Reformation (burnings at the stake, etc.) would not leave these theories – giving them a full creditability while adding new speculations.

Now amid all of these theories; ministers, clergy, clerics, priests, deacons, rabbi’s and anyone else who speaks for God without his authority, we have the blend of confusion which gives an end result – of each individual’s selection of what bests suit them whether true or false! Family, peer pressure, status, pride, prejudice, greed, avarice, lusts and many other factors help in this determination for this is the worldly and not the eternal.

The theorists of the worldly forget that God (or Heavenly Father and the Son) are unchanging – the same yesterday – today and forever. They forget that Heavenly Father and the Son are not working on post-graduate degrees and that they don’t need a middle man to tell someone else what the Scriptures mean. Further they forget that they’ve no authority other than the world’s to dispense their wisdom (which is as nothing) mixed between philosophy and scriptures (they choose or rewrite) as thought it was the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Therefore theorist’s have to mix everything up – continue to throw more into the mix – enthrall students at the universities or from the pulpits into accepting a smorgasbord of rhetorical thinking instead of the simplicity of truth and the real Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is not a Johnny come lately approach is been going on for thousands of years – and is led by none other than the fallen son of the morning.

Guile when mixed with theory is nothing more than garbage – yet when one is conditioned and makes their living on spewing garbage – then they become the men/women of theories and greatness is theirs for the taking.

There is some good theory – but for the most part it’s ignored for what it’s and shunned - the same as truth is shunned. Absolute truth is the most shunned thing in the world today and the past. (One would guess the world has its own theory on how best to shun truth.) Those who’ve professed to have it and revelations are usually demeaned or put to death and the recurring death keeps being handed down from generation to generation. One cannot mix truth or revelation into the mix – and thus those who’ve this eternal understanding have to be a bit off of the cliff of reality.

The problem with theory is that it’s not for all to engage – yet the world aggrandize and make important the unimportant – thus as with all else the world touches it steals the meaning and intent of theory. Indeed they’ve chosen to keep theory when in fact there’s actual knowledge of fact on an issue, thought or concern. Simply put a theory is an abstract thought you or I might have – sort of what if – or how come type question.

We’ll close with a simple example. On Saturday evening I shot and killed a hog. When I got to the spot where the hog laid – I noticed it was not the hog I’d shot at but all in the same it was dead and my shot did the job. Where the entry wound was found there was material which should not have been on that side of her body. After thinking about it I theorized that I actually had shot the hog I was aiming at and hit it – but the bullet continued on and killed the hog behind it. When checking I found this to be the case following the trail of the wounded hog until it went into the swamp (I don’t do swamps anymore – especially at night). Thus I know I shot one shot and hit two hogs. One died at the location of the shot but not the other. My theory is the other is wounded – and will most likely bleed out in time as it was shot through the neck. However, this will always be a theory as I’ve no way to confirm whether the hog dies or not.

Since most philosophical theory is around human behavior and life – one would guess the world doesn’t really want to find an answer – or one different from their circular redundant facts. For eternal life is not a theory – it’s a fact – one can deny it all they want – they can deny the Prophet’s then and now – they can deny what the Father and the Son have taught – they can deny behind their theories forever – but their theories are not Father’s truth or facts. Thus as I began, I’ll conclude, one would guess that a ‘theory’ is a worldly truth looking for proof by the world. It matters not even if there aren’t any facts to be found – just that the idea which developed the ‘theory’ is alive and well.

”Why is genius important to progress?” cji 2/1/09

”Why is genius important to progress?” cji 2/1/09

This question doesn’t define whether one is talking (asking) about worldly genius and worldly progress – or that which is eternal. Therefore with the freedom allotted we’ll approach both venues with equal zest! The approach will be from the eternal first and then the worldly.

Absolutely essential to eternal progress is the necessity to develop all that we’ve been endowed with as a child of Heavenly Father. We must be able to exercise the expansion of our light and knowledge. Our light in this circumstance is our ‘genius’ and our knowledge helps us to know what we don’t know. It’s been said, “The more I learn – the more I know that I don’t know and need to learn.” In 1968 in an essay of self that I wrote – I finished it with a poem and in this poem I said something like this, “For each mountain that I climb – one more will I see – and need to climb - for each question that I ask that many more will I know to ask…,” (paraphrase – it was long ago – smile). Knowledge and adding light in mortality is unending and will also continue after death in our next estate. The more we do in mortality will better prepare us for our next estate.
Genius: noun pl. geniuses gen′·iuses
1. according to ancient Roman belief, a guardian spirit assigned to a person at birth; tutelary deity
2. the guardian spirit of any person, place, etc.
3. either of two spirits, one good and one evil, supposed to influence one's destiny
4. a person considered as having strong influence over another
5. jinni (think of TV and Movies)
6. the personification of a quality
7. particular character or essential spirit or nature of a nation, place, age, etc.
8. a great natural ability (for a particular activity); strong disposition or inclination
9. great mental capacity and inventive ability; esp., great and original creative ability in some art, science, etc.
10. a person having such capacity or ability
11. popularly any person with a very high IQ (interesting to note this has little application to the rest of the definitions – yet the world highlights).
When one reviews the various definitions – there’s a noted linkage to our eternal parentage and potential. It’s not limited to just anyone with the exception the ‘popular’ worldly definition. Righteousness is paramount in ones example and thus an integral part of ‘genius.’ Yet there’s always the unrighteous influence to lead people. Genius can be on either side of the fence – but most will associate the eternal with good and not evil. And this could be very wrong! There are two sides to eternity – one is with our Heavenly Father and the other is in outer darkness or not being with Heavenly Father.

Many influence both ways to go - but the world only influences one way and that’s not to live with Heavenly Father. For with the rejection of a real Prophet and the fulfillment of Prophecies, including the Restoration of all things in the latter-days – the world denies all lineages of us with the Father and the Son – and thus denies ‘genius’ to all but their peers.

Thus we cross over from what’s eternal to what’s worldly – i.e. #11 in the list above. The world has taken the definition of ‘genius’ and the use of it in progress which is eternal! The world’s identification of Genius and its association with ‘progress’ is in the world of things is all tangible! Things of value – controls – creating sciences - worldly wealth and power over the material objects of the world. Whatever is good they determine if it’s worthy or unworthy of worldly praise or value and then use it or abuse it accordingly.

In the world one cannot really study ‘genius’ as it’s predetermined by the tests of the world and either you are or you are not! You cannot become a ‘genius’ and therefore any study of genius is of no worth. You’re allowed to study various geniuses but only what the world presents to you on them.

An example might be good here. I like and have read most of Albert Einstein’s works – he’s humorous – simple and easy to follow. Yet when I pick up a book about him – it’s convoluted and distressing – pointing out non-essential guess work (on their parts – the author) – about him and his life. Thus, if I want to know more about Albert Einstein – I read what he’s written. The same is true of Winston Churchill and others of their status in world history and apparent service given to freedom and agency.

Therefore we come back to the question of ‘why is genius important to progress?’ and find a circle – one being eternal and the other being just a circle without any meaning. The eternal circle is without beginning or ending – while the worldly circle is a rut going nowhere and ending nowhere. To be eternal is to continue to progress without end – while to be worldly the end is at death and the beginning at birth – i.e. mortality.

Genius is important to progress because of the eternal nature of our being and our direct lineage to Heavenly Father as his children. Without progress (or better progression) we’ll not be able to return to him and our home with him! This means each individual within the scope of their life only and not compared to another.

If you’re still here and following this – think of the word ‘progress and progress’ and define the difference? To progress to move along individually towards a destination – while progress defines what’s happened in the development of a thing or invention. Progression is the process of moving by an individual – while progress is a measurement of a worldly standard against some object.

One could ask if you’re making progress on homework or work assignments – while eternally one could consider how to progress to a higher level of light and knowledge. Which is it in your life? Since we’ve all the ‘genius’ gene and we can all progress to be with Father – the answer should be relatively simple why genius is related to progression!


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“What is Genius?”

“What is Genius?”

Having pondered this for multiple decades the answer to this question is relatively simple: A genius is a person who seeks to use common sense to resolve a question! They remove the nonessential – and bright lights to get to the basics of a situation. In addition genius is not someone worldly brilliant in area of their lives and in total darkness in the rest of their lives.

The world loves – even desires with unlimited passions and lusts to label and sort everything to which it recognizes as worldly. This is important to recognize for as soon as the world defines a person as being ‘genius’ they immediately describe his/her weaknesses – for the world is about demeaning and classifying – most importantly by controlling. If someone, which the world classifies as a ‘genius,’ doesn’t jump on board with weaknesses – they reject or create stories. In a similar vein when the world creates the classification system in which to slot everyone and everything they’re seeking to remove ‘real geniuses from their gene pool.

Many who could be ‘real geniuses’ due to birth, social standing, opportunity, neglect or any of a myriad of worldly reasons could be stunted and shunned.
However, how can anyone – anywhere deny that all of Father’s creations are geniuses? We’ve all the capability of becoming like Heavenly Father! “Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil…” If we can become ‘one of us (the Gods) – then one must have all of the gifts and talents to be a real genius. This simple thought scares and threatens the worldly people who use Gods only for their own ends. Constantly they try to define and limit what the world understands as the Father or the Son. In addition the limitations they put on their fellow beings – they also beguilingly entitled to the Father and the Son. Rather than lifting up their fellow beings to become like Gods – they demean the Father and the Son to be like themselves.

Philosophers spend endless words – books – thoughts on the denial or limited acceptance of the idea of a Supreme Being – or of Heavenly Father and his Son our Savior. They tear apart words like; love, feeling, emotion, hatred, obedience – even down to good or evil – or most importantly the ‘Two Ways,’ further demeaning the Prophets (then and now0.

One would guess that to be worldly one has to understand genius as someone who’s better than another. Leave it to the Universities/Schools/Scholars to compare and demean – lifting up their own gods of things versus things. They strive to eliminate the basic differences between the beasts of the field and the human being. Thus to the world a dog or cat can be a genius by being able to learn to do tricks. Yet how could/can this be?

Genius is simply the ability to solve problems and find solutions to the questions in their life. That in some cases these problems interact with the worldly inspires the worldly to label and control these solutions and then to question them. It’s a religion to the worldly to not accept anything – for to accept something – anything would be to commit and to thus become vulnerable to others.

So what have I learned more or less about genius?
Genius is uncomplicated
Genius keeps things simple
Genius is frustrated that others don’t do the same
Genius doesn’t like to waste time (especially with the superficial)
Genius make decisions quickly to those observing them
Genius will not accept confusion as having truth or common sense
Genius is multi-leveled in thinking and doing (multi-tasking also)
Genius are easily bored with the unchallenging or uninteresting
Genius never consider themselves to be geniuses
Geniuses recognize their environment and know they’re strangers to the worldly!

My guess would be this list is incomplete – but for time’s sake and rather than to bore or abuse the readers time – this list if studied contains much more than just what’s seen on the paper.

Maybe to add one more item: 11. Geniuses believe everyone else can do what they can do and are incredulous when others fail to meet their expectations – not their skills but their individual expectations (as a child of God).



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