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Wednesday, September 13, 2017

"Agnosticism 102"

It has said that Dr. Albert Einstein was an agnostic – which when one reads or studies his life (from his own writings) this cannot be discerned. Interestingly – I’ve read most all of Einstein’s writings and never seen this there – however this has been around. Einstein – was raised in an inactive Jewish home – went to Catholic schools (was ridiculed) and never professed either a belief or disbelief to any Church – however, he did fully acknowledge the existence of God (per se’ not Jesus Christ) and a higher authority. He stated this in a small meeting in CA just prior to WW2 (1940). When Israel was formed he was asked to be the first Prime Minister but turned it down. As almost all those of a higher intellect he understood the being of a higher being – had read the Bible – and found where it made common sense none of the churches he knew of did. I’ll research the below but don’t believe it is anything more than someone’s creation trying to give it more credibility.  All of the writing’s claiming what Einstein’s writings do or do not say have been proven much like the news of today – fake/false and very opinionated. Would highly recommend one read’s the works of Albert Einstein’s – and see what you can come to grasps with. 

Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. This does not and is not found in any Einstein’s writings. Of course one can go back to those of who wrote serious papers as a youth might be quoted from then and not today.

This is found in one of the Analysis of this myth: This apocryphal tale of a college-age Albert Einstein proving the existence of God to his atheist professor first began circulating in 2004. One reason we know it isn't true is that the same story was already making the rounds earlier with no mention of Einstein in it at all.
Another reason we know it isn't true is that Einstein was a self-described agnostic who didn't believe in what he called a "personal God." He wrote: "[T]he word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
And, finally, we know it isn't true because Einstein was a careful thinker who wouldn't have abided the specious logic attributed to him here. As written, the argument neither disproves the existence of evil nor proves the existence of God.
Actually the author who wrote the analysis doesn’t understand the definition of Agnostic – and or much of Einstein. An agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively. Over time many have asserted this label on those like Jefferson, Darwin, Einstein and many other – and I would guess to some degree you and I! Huxley came up with the term – and since then the liberal application has taken in a lot of territory without understanding who they’ve assessed it to. Einstein never self-described himself as such except to get people off of his case – the same as Jefferson and Adams belonged to churches to keep people off of their backs. Darwin – was born into a preachers home – attended seminary and finally walked away due to the confusion found. What is taken out of context is that almost all of the Christian Churches claim no personal God – but in their various creeds only a God which makes absolutely no sense. Thus most all of Christendom and the other major religions of the world are by Huxley’s definition ‘Agnostics’.

By definition a ‘personal God’ is one you can communicate with one to one – and be heard and understood and at the same time come to know literally. Since only one organized Church believes this to be true – that there is open communication with their God – then what of the rest of the world? Claiming such a belief and in the same breathe denying it. All of the Creeds in Christendom deny the literal existence of a physical being of flesh and bone – as two separate beings as the Savior testifies over and over again in the Scriptures.  Again neither here nor there – believing what one wants cannot change the truth – ‘If you love me keep my Commandments’ – and thus to believe the Savior’s Word! We must each remember – all of us who proclaim Christianity ‘faith without works is dead’ (James) and we’ve to live the Will of the Father or deny all that we profess to believe.   

Whether we choose to become a disciple of Jesus Christ – we better read the instruction book(s) – and heed them literally without the logismoi of men/women intermixed. Sadly most will just read the synopsis or maybe a College Cheat Book. We do not know the heart of beliefs of a man/woman until they walk/talk/listen/discern and even then might not know. However, we don’t have to know – only Father and the Son need to know and they do! Careful quoting out of context, edited writings, hearsay, myths and whatever else can be known/shown/guessed is not to be used to understand the heart of a man/woman.

Agnosticism 102 is nothing more than continuation of men/women justifying what they want to believe or to be held accountable for to their peers or associates. Einstein, Jefferson and many others to include Darwin are labeled by what men/women try to apply to justify their history retroactively re-written. We’ve each to do our own homework – going back as far as we can to primary source materials – lacking to do this we then hang what we believe on what others want us to believe.

“Agnosticism 102”


Grabbing a straw here/there
building up huge fires about
placing trust in men/women
wanting to be accepted
lacking thinking or reason
appeasement to the world
sitting on the fence again
doing so in pre-existence
1/3 the host of Heaven
unable to choose sides
now today doing the same
believing nothing known
nothing can be proved
ignoring what’s all about!

Copyright © 2017 – cji

Sunday, September 10, 2017

“Truth’s in Most Religions” (follow on to earlier essay)

“Truths in Most Religions”


When one attempts to write – especially to be understood much material and information will be left out or for the readers to research on their own. Writing requires one to do their homework – but it’s also incumbent upon the readers to do theirs! As writing I consider the usage of footnotes and since I’m not per se’ writing for publication I’ve found little reason to document 55 years of my personal research for someone else to publish. If in fact anyone wants my primary, secondary or current references they need only do a search on the Internet. Many know my personal library contains thousands of books with many being first editions or translations of first editions from hundreds (even thousand) years ago. This is said not to brag or to be prideful – but most would affirm I’ve done my homework very well indeed. Why is this important to the reader: first I seek only to write on what I know to be true; second I would be able to present such references if requested with good intent; third digging through my collection to find an exact quote at this point in my life (while it could be done) seems to be redundant and to deter from further writings; and lastly I’m a virtual unknown so who really wants my references. Most of the worldly scholars dismiss what I write out of hand – as one of my early professors told me when I quoted primary material in his class that I was just, ‘an amateur or hobbyist’ and my sources not worth being quoted. Which is interesting as I’ve found many dislike learned there may be something they don’t know.

Wherefore of the above paragraph is that while my previous writing, “What Is – What Was – What is Man-made – What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ” cji 9/10/17 dealt only with Christianity. Leaving out some things which I feel important and also other religions of the world. Hopefully, this short exercise with resolve these omissions. Most of those who see, read my writings fall within the Christian Community of religions. It is very important to note that all religions Christian or otherwise have both truths, light and good things to offer. This of course excludes those claiming Satan as their headstone for nothing of worth, truth, light or good can come from Satan.

How many religions are there in the world? Estimates conclude there are at least 4,200 religions in the world – of which 84% of the world’s population participate. Of this about 1/3 practice some form of Christianity. The study actually states ‘84% of the world population has faith!’ which misleading because the other 16% have faith as well. Indeed to not believe in a deity requires more faith than many of those who proclaim faith.

How many know the names of all of the religions in the world and then what does each believe or better practice? This to me would be an exercise in futility as what would it accomplish to know this information? We know all religions which lead men/women to do good – i.e. James 1:27; are important to the welfare of this world. We also know that religion should encourage questions, research, study – and just accept things because one is told to do so. It’s the questioning which leads one to more truths and thus more faith and finally to seek greater light and knowledge. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions is where you’ll find most of the various religions in the world.)

The parable of the weed and the blade of grass: Which in one’s lawn gets the most attention? The weed usually is singled out as being unwanted and thus to be destroyed. Grass on the other hand is just doing what it’s told to do and therefore requires little attention. Most followers in religion are like blades of grass just doing what they’re told to do. While the one who questions, seeks answers, offers a differing opinion is like the weed and needs to be destroyed in case it takes over the lawn. Therefore tradition and peer pressure make most bow to the theology of the owner of the lawn (church) while helping to weed out the weeds.

Because of the above parable most seeking truth are stymied or otherwise held in check or end up on the outside or in some religions – dead! Most of the world religions are cultural in nature and not overly well known except in their specific locale. Which is the truth-seeker to be known as – the weed in most cases and never the blade of grass in almost all cases. Which are we?

While all churches have some truth and some light – and lead people to do good – why isn’t this enough? Many will say I’ve my beliefs and you’ve yours. However, if there’s a greater truth – a supreme truth – filled with all of the light – wouldn’t everyone want to know? If you knew – wouldn’t you want your friends to know? Wouldn’t you want to know?

When I was a youngster I wanted to know – I read the Bible and found it to be true – yet everywhere I looked no one was teaching what the Bible literally spoke. I became the weed – being asked not to come back – asking too many questions then going to the Scriptures to show the answer given didn’t make any sense. In one case I wasn’t in a Bible study group more than 10 minutes was asked a question about 1 Peter 3:7 and was told to leave and not come back (I was 18 single and in the Far East at the time). Today I still ask questions and seek answers – however today it is much easier because of the variety of Scriptures and sources I can investigate.

Yes – much of research is devoted the Christian Scriptures – however, I still refer to and utilize all truths wherever they can be found. In an essay recently completed on the Book of James I quote liberally from the following: The Bible (Old and New Testaments); The Book of Mormon; The Doctrine and Covenants; The Pearl of Great Price and the Holy Qur’an. Why these because they represent the most readily available and teach many of the same doctrines. (The essay on the Book of James ended with some 268 pages of reference notes – some 88 pages of text. In this book I was able to cross-reference every verse in James to each of the other books of Scriptures I used. Why because in my studies I noticed that James was written to our day! It is also the one book that most wanted left out of the Bible in the late 1400’s to early 1600’s and even as late as the mid-1700’s. Also, I found in the works of many of the various Great Churches of the World that most all of the principles taught by James was also found in their teachings.

Should we gather and study – do our homework we’ll find many great and small truths spread throughout the world of religion. However, I still know of only one Church where all of these truths can be found and can be added to with new Revelations and thus is a living religion. I leave the above with you in the name of Jesus Christ – amen – c/ork

“Truth’s in Most Religions”


Deny not the truths of God
for they are many and clear
some here and some there
as we venture in this life
seeking our full mission
able someday to return
to the presence of Father
worthy and ordained fully
truth’s in most religions
but wetting one’s hunger
wanting more and more
till finding the receptacle
filled to brimming with all
and continuing as living
added to here and there
where the Lord’s Prophet
resides and leads today
those who harken fully
to the Father’s voice
through his Son Jesus
wherein we’re found today!

Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What Is – What Was – What is Man-made – What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ” cji 9/10/17

“The Trojan Horse pope has triumphed and Catholicism is dead! From this day forward forever redefined as a non-centralized, liberal, individualized,  virtually non-aligned collection of  non-religious sects  . . .”

“What Is – What Was – What is Man-made – What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ”
cji 9/10/17

If one were to literally believe the Scriptures it ‘Catholicism’ was dead on arrival – a man-made religion based on Greek Philosophy mixed with some doctrine (less than 5%) – controlled by Emperors and great armies. Both Augustine and Origen were scholars from the schools of Greek Rhetoric – without either authority or keys – teaching the logismoi of men/women without comprehension of the Scriptures. Paul foretold all of the events following the apostasy of the Church as organized by Jesus Christ – and after the death of Ignatius (about 150AD) (note: not to be confused with the gnostic Ignatius about 100 years later) – there was no more authority on the European/Asian/African Continents. In the Western world (American Continents) the last Apostle passed away about 461AD. (Note: These do not include John (the beloved) or the Three Nephite Prophets; all of whom are still here). The knowledge which leads to light is here – we’ve just to seek it out as pointed out in James 1:5.  

 Understanding what is needful – i.e. what all of the Prophets of Old have foretold from both the Old Testament and the New Testament – there can always only be one (1) true Church on this Earth at a time. For only can have the authority and keys to receive the Revelation needed for all. Any other church so organized with authority or keys would already be dead. One cannot take a living branch from a dead tree. The Church as the Savior organized it in the meridian of time – was foretold to Apostatize and therefore no longer to have the authority or keys on this earth – therefore to be dead. Since all other organized religions claim ties to this original Church (with the exception of other previous man-made religions) then they are found to be branches from a dead tree. Therefore reformation cannot restore the authority and keys – only the Father and the Son can do this – which was prophesied by again almost every Prophet which we’ve writings preserved from and those we only know about by their reference by these Prophets. Each of the dispensations where the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been on this earth has come and gone with the soul exception of the current one on Earth at this time. The current dispensation was Restored by the Father and the Son in the early 1800’s on the American Continent. Organized in 1830 with only six members in upstate NY – it has grown till today with over 15.8 million members worldwide. The Church is called by the name of Jesus Christ as was his Church in the meridian of time – with the added; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for its name.

Greek Philosophy was much easier to understand and accept – which was based on rhetoric which is usually mixed with myth, facts, falsehood and whatever would appeal to the masses (i.e. those small percentage of literate and free people of either Greece or the immediate world). Religion was never intended for those in slavery or lower classes – and in most cases with no time off without the ability to organize or find time to worship. Even today Greek Philosophy is more accepted than the eternal truths of the Holy Scriptures. Men/women profess a belief but only verbally as most do not obey even the simplest of the Commandments. Or if they do it is with over-zealousness so that others will notice them in their extremes. Many of the known churches today randomly change doctrines to meet the worldly appeasements to keep people coming into their doors. Remember all churches founded of by men/women have to be funded with a paid clergy – thus if one is paid they’ve to teach that which those who’re paying want to hear. This of course leads to a conflict of interest for the clergy cannot vary from the scripted texts published in volumes of books over the time of the lifespan of their particular creeds. They’ve been educated at schools of divinity and gained their license from the governments of men/women. Even when they know what they’re teaching isn’t common sense doctrine or in variation from the Scriptures they cannot deviate. To deviate would be to lose their positions and source of making a living.

Augustine and Origen are known for the founders of modern day Christianity; Augustine in the Roman or Western sphere and Origen in the Eastern sphere or Constantinople. Respectfully both good and honorable men who trying their best to reconcile what they could not understand in the literal Scriptures ad-libbed with rhetoric and the Greek Philosophy. Even to the point of having slaughtered those who clung to the original teachings of the Prophets.

Augustine (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&q=augustine&oq=Augus&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i46i67k1j46i67k1l2j0i131k1j0l2.2341.3995.0.7465. was raised by his mother a singularly good woman and with strong Christian beliefs from the original Church. However, he rejected these beliefs for the greater part of his life seeking for something more understandable. His life was scattered with membership in various sects and blending of belief systems. However, he was a rhetorician – studying it for many years (some say 15+) and then teaching it for about the same amount of time. He was constantly seeking for something he could believe. His influences were many and his confidence took in much more than just his local responsibilities. Yet in the end when he accepted Christianity is was with the reserves that the Scriptures had dual meanings and he took the path of least resistance to giving new interpretations as doctrines. (Note: much is written herein and elsewhere about him – so much so to document it all would take much more space and time than which most of us have. Suffice it to say – all of what I put forth is documented and even the least of scholars or researchers can easily find.) After coming upon his powerful position in order to convert those of the old schools of Christianity he allowed them to be put to death as they would not give up their old traditions. One thing of note even in his latter-years he was still hoping for at least one revelation from God.

Origen (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&q=Origen&oq=Origen&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39k1j0j0i10k1l2.99973.101623.0.101934. known as being fully honest and truthful held to and taught many of the truths of the Scriptures and was therefore never ‘Sainted’ being called a heretic. Yet what he did do was both influential in Greek Orthodoxy (even today). However, after his death much of what he did was rejected and the secular world took over his beginnings. He was known as Adamantius ("man of steel") (again he said what he knew and acknowledged what he did not – and also stated what he believed but was not able to document). Much of what is left of his legacy has him closely tied to Plato and Clement of Alexandria Therefore we find the Greek Philosophy in his teachings and thus the doctrines of Greek Orthodoxy.

What did Paul and other Prophet’s tell us? (Note: here are the Scriptural references)

2 Thessalonians 2

·         New Testament
The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Thessalonians Chapter 2 Apostasy is to precede the Second Coming—The gospel prepares men for eternal glory.
·         New Testament
The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy Chapter 3 Paul describes the apostasy and perilous times of the last days—The scriptures guide man to salvation. 
·         New Testament
The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 20 Paul raises Eutychus from death—Paul is free from the blood of all men—He predicts apostasy from within the Church—He reveals a teaching from Jesus, It is more blessed to give than to receive. 
·         New Testament
The First Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy Chapter 4 Paul describes the latter-day apostasy—Christ is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 
·         New Testament
The Revelation of St John the Divine Chapter 12 John sees the imminent apostasy of the Church—He also sees the War in Heaven in the beginning when Satan was cast out—He sees the continuation of that war on earth. 
·         New Testament
The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy Chapter 4 Paul gives a solemn charge to preach the gospel in a day of apostasy—Paul and all Saints are assured of exaltation. 
·         Old Testament
The Book of the Prophet Isaiah Chapter 33 Apostasy and wickedness will precede the Second Coming—The Lord will come with devouring fire—Zion and its stakes will be perfected—The Lord is our Judge, Lawgiver, and King.
·         Old Testament
The Book of the Prophet Isaiah Chapter 30 Israel is scattered for rejecting the seers and prophets—Israel’s people will be gathered and blessed temporally and spiritually—The Lord will come in a day of apostasy to judge and destroy the wicked. 
·         New Testament
The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 7 Stephen recounts the history of Israel and names Moses as a prototype of Christ—He testifies of the apostasy in Israel—He sees Jesus on the right hand of God—Stephen’s testimony is rejected, and he is stoned to death. 
·         Old Testament
The Book of the Prophet Isaiah Chapter 29 A people (the Nephites) will speak as a voice from the dust—The Apostasy, restoration of the gospel, and coming forth of a sealed book (the Book of Mormon) are foretold—Compare 2 Nephi 27. 
·         Book of Mormon
The Second Book of Nephi Chapter 28 Many false churches will be built up in the last days—They will teach false, vain, and foolish doctrines—Apostasy will abound because of false teachers—The devil will rage in the hearts of men—He will teach all manner of false doctrines. About 559–545 B.C. 
·         Book of Mormon
8The Lamanites seek out and destroy the Nephites—The Book of Mormon will come forth by the power of God—Woes pronounced upon those who breathe out wrath and strife against the work of the Lord—The Nephite record will come forth in a day of wickedness, degeneracy, and apostasy. About A.D. 400–421. 
·         Book of Mormon
...Second Book of Nephi Chapter 27 Darkness and apostasy will cover the earth in the last days—The Book of Mormon will come forth—Three witnesses will testify of the book—The learned man will say he cannot read the sealed book—The Lord will do a marvelous work and a wonder—Compare Isaiah 29. About... 
·         Old Testament
...Deuteronomy Chapter 7 Israel is to destroy the seven nations of Canaan—Marriages with them are forbidden lest apostasy result—Israel has a mission as a holy and chosen people—The Lord shows mercy unto those who love him and keep his commandments—He promises to remove sickness from the... 
·         Book of Mormon
...sees in vision the church of the devil set up among the Gentiles, the discovery and colonizing of America, the loss of many plain and precious parts of the Bible, the resultant state of Gentile apostasy, the restoration of the gospel, the coming forth of latter-day scripture, and the building... 
·         The Guide to the Scriptures
God’s reestablishment of the truths and ordinances of his gospel among men on earth. The gospel of Jesus Christ was lost from the earth through the apostasy that took place following the earthly ministry of Christ’s Apostles. That apostasy 
·         The Guide to the Scriptures
Chapter 1 contains a prayer for the Saints. Chapter 2 speaks of the coming apostasy. Chapter 3 contains Paul’s prayer for the triumph of the gospel cause. 
·         The Guide to the Scriptures
In chapters 1 and 2, Paul expressed regret at the news he had received of apostasy among the Galatians and clarified his position among the Apostles. Chapters 3 and 4 discuss the doctrines of faith and works. Chapters 5 and 6 contain a sermon on the practical results of the doctrine of faith. 

One needs to reconcile themselves with what is true and what is not. Even the least amount of gray is not from the Father or his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. There is no confusion, contention, mystery, guile in the teachings of the true Prophets and/or the Father or the Son. It is common sense and truthful! We need to heed the warnings and prophecies handed down then and now (as we’ve a living Prophet on this Earth in this day – Thomas S. Monson) for the Kingdom of God has been Restored – for he could not return to his Kingdom were it not restored. In the Lord’s Prayer what is prayed for: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.Everyone is praying for this to happen when it already has!

·         Old Testament
14¶Now therefore fear the Lord , and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord . 
15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord , choose you this day whom ye will serve ; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house , we will serve the Lord . 

This applies to us in this day – choosing either the god’s of men/women in their creeds which make little sense to the Scriptures and without full obedience to the Commandments; or to Our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ and their chosen Prophets and Apostles in these latter-days? We each have the agency to do whatever we want – to believe whatever we want – but it is wise to know what the price is for our beliefs. There’s a story told that after the end of WW2 – in a public square there was a young man standing on a box preaching agnosticism when he was approached by an elderly lady. She asked, “What have I to lose if I follow my beliefs in Jesus Christ if you’re correct?” Without waiting for a reply she answered, “Nothing!” Then she continued what have you to lose if I’m right and you’re wrong?” Quiet ensued and the young man answered, “Everything!” We too are held to the answer of this question – if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Restored Church with all of the authority and keys – which I believe – what have I to lose if the rest of the world is correct and I’m wrong, nothing!  However, if I’m right (which I testify to as being true) what have those of the world to lose?

Paul taught in the Baptism for the Dead – the Savior taught of the Sealing power given to the Apostles (what is Sealed in earth – is Sealed in Heaven – what is not Sealed in earth is not Sealed in Heaven). Malachi taught “Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
Peter taught that husband and wife are to heirs together forever – how can this be if they are not Sealed for Time and all Eternity by one having authority and the keys to do so?
One has to read the Scriptures – pray calling upon Heavenly Father to know if they’re true – with a contrite heart, humbled and repentant – to know the truth of all things – precept upon precept – thus to know the difference between the teachings/wisdom of men/women and Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. There is no other way – the Holy Ghost will validate the truth of all things!
We’ve to understand fully any church formed by men/women regardless of where or when or how old or how many belong was (or is) dead on arrival. One cannot take a living branch from a dead tree. All the writings in the world cannot change this simple fact. And further one cannot create anything out of nothing – matter requires matter – ask a five year old – he/she will tell you it cannot be done expect as the king’s new clothes which never existed.

Answer the questions in the title - “What Is – What Was – What is Man-made – What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ” then you’ll be on your way to understand the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Which in his name I close this writing – even Jesus the Christ amen – c/ork

“What Is – What Was – What is Man-made –
What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ”


What matters to answer questions
better to never ask some at all
most want no answer given truthfully
most only want to hear what they choose
does ‘what is’ is what they can see
nothing more required to satisfy
then ‘what was’ is in the past only
no longer with application today
rhetorically ‘what is man-made’
follows the same called inventions
physical monuments to creativity
or imaginations/illusions/guile
while ‘what is from Father
and His Son Jesus Christ’
is found to be eternal and true
is found to be eternal and true!)

Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What Is”
Can we see it – touch it
taste it – smell it
is this the litmus test
for all that ‘is’ to be
some have said old Will
in his plays used this
‘all that there is I can see
what I cannot see isn’t’
while in answer, ‘All that
there is – is all that I can see
and all that I cannot see’
which are we found sided
can we see – or can we not?
Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What Was”
Written recordings of history
primary source or later
relics found long abandoned
tombs raided and looted
caves holding treasures
ships on the bottom of seas
is it always in the past state
even just yesterday known
then today already denied
man/woman creativity
or just translated wrongly
what was can we really know?
Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What is Man-made”
Many inventions of worth
taken and abused wrongly
made of education/ease
used for deviations/lusts
easily corrupted in time
changed and stolen
rust and moth doth change
what is man-made
impermanent and fugacious!
Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What is From the Father
and the Son”
Beyond our sight’s understanding
uncomprehending all and everything
incapable of knowing eternity
that which is and was and always
for the good of mankind today
true religion, true principles
true guides for living always
insights to the minds of men/women
sparks of imagination to invent
(the mind cannot do
what it cannot visualize)
all that is good if from
Father and the Son
most of all known to each
the Atonement of our Savior!
Copyright © 2017 – cji

“What Is – What Was – What is Man-made –
What is From Father and His Son Jesus Christ 2”


Trans versing time and space
constantly seeking more to know
discerning between fact/fiction
our goal to find the full truth
what is – what was
what is man-made
what is from Father-Son
finding what leads to life
eternal and forever and ever
knowing much is to be done
works with our faith together
learning our mission here today
able then to return to our home
with the Father and the Son!)

Copyright © 2017 – cji

'Chuck' Charles J. Ingerson, CPCM, Fellow (NCMA)

“Lest we forget the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ – completing the Atonement so that ‘death’ could be removed from those who inhabited this earth – each and every one – none excluded – with the exception of those who through disobedience to the Commandments have found to excluded themselves from eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom (spoken of by Paul – and throughout the Scriptures of our returning to dwell with the Father and the Son. in his name even Jesus the Christ amen.”  cji  4/6/2017

To create one has to have imagination - and we've a society which not only can't think for themselves but lack in knowing how to communicate with one another – unlike previous generations where one had to do both!” cji 11/25/16

“Altruistic Logic is where one understands whatever reason one does something for – when questioned will always be for an Altruistic logic or reason. They’ll say whatever covers their real reason so that others will believe them. Sadly in most cases (not all) these reasons are selfish and not altruistic.” cji 12/2/15

“Just like faith once we understand a truth – it moves from faith to knowledge/light – the same as wisdom when we learn something we store it forever for recall when needed and then add precept upon precept. Thus we grow exponentially either towards Zion or we fade exponentially to Babylon.” – cji 7/18/15

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“… tis true – we’ve but a season – to grow – nourish – plant – protect – water – correct – and most importantly to love as the Savior loved …” cji 1/7/15

(Do We Want to Know?)